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Pyramid Head vs. Valtiel
Pyramid Head 72%  72%  [ 49 ]
Valtiel 28%  28%  [ 19 ]
Total votes : 68
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I don't recall PH being limited to James, so I can only assume that it isn't.

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PH is Valtiel. And this lingers for three pages?


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Subway Guard
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F wrote:
PH [b]is[/] Valtiel. And this lingers for three pages?


That's what I've been saying. Reading must be going out of style, or something.


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I always thought PH had a greater effect. :D


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Just Passing Through
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Just a quick comment, what does ph's image have to do with him fighting?

And vetial...PH is way to slow.

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Yeah, I'd pay money to see that. But assuming Valtiel isn't immortal, PH would win, assuming he is, Valtiel would pull a stalemate. Unless James was just aiming at the helmet the whole time...Valtiel would still lose. I think, but now I wanna see more of Valitel, I mean he wasn't even explained the way PH was,I mean, it doesnt even say his name. Say, where did the Valtiel name come from anyway?

The Vatiel is suppose to watch over the person who gives birth to god. Seeing how he is suppose to protect something so important must mean it's fighting abilitys are incredible compaired to that of all the other SH monsters, not including bosses.

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PH would rape this Valtiel thing and cut him in a half with a proper thing 8)


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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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I think the roles of the two monsters are very different; Pyramid Head was a punisher, Valtiel was a protector of God, and thus had to protect Heather.

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Vatiel can't be touched, nor can he fight. I don't think either would win

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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Pyramid Head would most likely try to kill/rape Valtiel, and when he realizes that Valtiel is invincible, Pyramid Head would get fed up and walk away.

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Pyramid Head f0'sh0'.

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Just Passing Through
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When I saw Valtiel towards the ending where I could get close to him and during the cutsceene where he is crowning GOD, he looks like a Pyramid Head without the helmet...so in essence could they be the same thing? :?

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i voted for PH, but i really dont know who would win :D

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that whole phead "not a god" vs. "is a god" debate could go on forever. anyway, seeing as how phead plays the role of executioner in SH2, i'd have to say he could kick Valtiel's ass. however.... you never know. Valtiel could grab phead by the helmet like that nurse or whatever she is in SH3 and have his way with him.

they should make a little bonus game where you could use either or as characters and you go through killing all the various SH monsters with them.


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The PH can slash of Valtiel's head using the great knife!

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Just Passing Through
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ayajeannebeck wrote:
When I saw Valtiel towards the ending where I could get close to him and during the cutsceene where he is crowning GOD, he looks like a Pyramid Head without the helmet...so in essence could they be the same thing? :?


And my question will not get any attention anyway :roll:

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No...they are not the same...

There's your answer. It's been asked a million times...that's probably why no one is jumping on that question.


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Just Passing Through
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I'm gonna say Valtiel simply because I prefer it to Pyramid Head, Valtiel is potentially untouchable, Pyramid Head would get tired out. But then, it's not as if they would ever fight anyway...

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Just Passing Through
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Necro here. Anyway, Pyramid Head is essentially a manifestation based off of a Sect of the Order's interpretation of Valtiel. It is manifested by James Sunderland. The Valtiel we see in Silent Hill 3 is probably manifested by Claudia. Valtiel, like God, isn't actually a "real" being. As I mentioned in another thread, you could potentially manifest two Valtiels that act completely different based off of your interpretation of what Valtiel is to you. Same thing with God, and for James, it's the same thing with Pyramid Head. I would have made the suggestion that Valtiel exist as the one closest to God, but seeing as how the mythos religion isn't actually real, that doesn't mean much of anything unless they manifest in exact accordance to the cult's beliefs. Beyond that, we look at the difference between the two. Pyramid is relentless and can't die unless the being who manifested him gets over whatever is troubling them. Valtiel most likely can be killed in a similar way that God was killed, but it doesn't matter because ultimately the religious belief will allow future cult leaders of Silent Hill to manifest another interpretation of Valtiel. Hmmm. I'd have to say that Valtiel, even though it isn't a real being, is more immortal due to the fact that it's part of the order and therefore can be discovered by people and manifested. Pyramid Head isn't really seen by anyone other than James, so once he's gone he's supposedly gone for good. Although if this is a match between Valtiel from Silent Hill 3 and Pyramid Head from Silent Hill 2, probably Pyramid Head. He's slow, but relentless, and probably wouldn't take crap from a creature like Valtiel. Lol.


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