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Pyramid Head vs. Valtiel
Pyramid Head 72%  72%  [ 49 ]
Valtiel 28%  28%  [ 19 ]
Total votes : 68
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My Bestsellers Clerk
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I have a feeling I know who will get more votes but I just want to see how many other people out there like Valtiel more even though they essentially serve the same purpose in both games.

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valtiel would decimate ol' PH. hes all spaztic and erratic. and PH is so slow that you can beat him to death with the [wooden plank] you find at the beginning of SH2

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Never tried that... hmm... sounds funny.

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Who says Valtiel can fight? PH would dominate undoubtedly.


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Well you never know, he does protect God afterall.

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I dunno, he does kill things for a living.


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the only thing that PH can kill is those mannequin demon things. and thats only because they dont have eyes to get out of the way before he takes 10 seconds to swing his blade.

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Well he kills them either after or while he is raping them. :D

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errr... :?
PH intimidates me...
Valtiel scares me...

but hey! PH uses melee weapons! Valtiel uses what? a valve? :P lol

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A tricky question. But my vote goes for PH. I don't think that gaming world ever has seen such a charismatic and intimidating foe with such brilliant story. Plus I still get the chills everytime I first run into him in that long corridor at Woodside. Creepy! He just stands there staring(?) at you and you just know that you haven't seen the last of this guy.

Valtiel just makes me feel uneasy and insecure. Cool character nonetheless :D By the way, sorry for the off-topic but does anyone know what the word "Valtiel" means? Or is it something Konami just came up with. I tried to google it but all I found were SH-sites or people who strangely enough do SH-fanart :roll:

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From The Book Of Lost Memories -

"Since the name Valtiel means "attendant" by the way of the English word "valet," his existence as an angel is derived from suffixing "-el."

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Great! Thanks Lovelytourniquet :wink: Damn! I really need to start doing my research more properly :oops:

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You are very welcome. For the longest time I always wondered how people could possibly know so much about the series. Well, there are a lot of sources out there but the best IMO is Translated Memories. I believe all of the book is translated now and it has all your heart desires on the first three games and beyond. There is a page in the book on Valtiel and that is where I got that info from. Definatly check it out!

Hah, that was some hardcore plugging, lol.

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Christ that's a whole lot of reading :) Maybe now I can stop asking stupid questions and actually make myself useful (as if).

Thanks again!

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As far as I understand, Pyramid Head and Valtiel don't really serve the same purpose at all?

I choose Pyramid Head though; I really like the idea of Valtiel and his overall design but Pyramid Head is just... I dunno. Just his IMAGE, his SILHOUETTE, is terrifying to me. I can't really explain it.


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If you read what the creator has to say about the two on Translated Memories it makes sense. It isn't blatenly obvious but it will make sense if you read the section called "The Magician"

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Pyramid Head, bitches.

He's the supreme executioner. What does Valtiel do? Crank wheel. Twitch head. Crawl forward/backward. Repeat.

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Well, this is a victory of Pyramid Head. I mean, we can be fast when he wants to, remember on the roof? It was like a solic charge. And, seeing as he is invincible, that leads me to suspect that Valtiel is as well. If thats so, they'd fight for eternity... But lets not forget, Valtiel is a damned attendent, whereas PH kills people.

PH.

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PH has always scared me, the Valtiel just sort of bugged me.Guess he doesn't scare me because I dont have to fight him. :D

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Pyramid Head is just awsome.Vatiel....turns valves.....

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