Don't laugh... The Janitor = Pyramid Head?

Post by **Michael** » 11 Mar 2006

I know it's rubbish or whatever, but looking at several pics of these two characters, they look alike. Looking at a poster of PH with a belt on, I noticed his arms, upper body is a bit similar to the Janitor. Would it be possible these two tie in together in the movie?

Post by **amphreded** » 11 Mar 2006

Maybe the same actor for both monsters? To me they look totally different though. One is a pain inflicter while another one looks tortured. Could be a masochistic (in a broad meaning) version of PH though.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » 11 Mar 2006

Gans said there's a reason the Janitor is being tormented.

Maybe he couldn't keep his hands off little kids?

Post by **sh#1fan** » 13 Mar 2006

yeh im guesing the janitor was a child malestor or somthing

Anyway, no i dont think there the same thing.

Just like when sh3 came out everyone thought valtile was ph without his helmet.... like an earlyer person posted, it my be the same actor, but there not tied together in the story.

HammeringInMyHead · Post by **HammeringInMyHead** » 13 Mar 2006

Yeap, I thing they are totally diferent.

Post by **ravern** » 13 Mar 2006

why does everything in silent hil have to be pyramd hea.d am sorry but ove the years i have herad many monster in silent hill are pyramid head which i don't get. cant u just leave pyramid head allown?

no offence but m in a mood today

Post by **LaraeGunn** » 13 Mar 2006

I think maybe the Janitor didn't help little Alessa while she was being picked on...
Just a thought, but notice how he can't see? Has to be a reason for that.

Post by **Smokey** » 13 Mar 2006

ravern wrote:why does everything in silent hil have to be pyramd hea.d am sorry but ove the years i have herad many monster in silent hill are pyramid head which i don't get. cant u just leave pyramid head allown?

no offence but m in a mood today

Pyramid head was the most unique monster in SH2 as it directly related to the town and James was a secondary - as all the other creatures directly related to James with the town's influence as a secondary. So, while I understand not using creatures from the first (giant bugs and birds won't cut it in this film, guys, sorry) for atmospheric purposes - pyramid head is easy to wrap around the story and give new meaning to as his physical representation goes directly back to the cult of that town. It can also be manipulated to play a crucial role in all of Alessa's torment. Of course - bringing pyramid head into the film is something for the fans - but he is a very easy character to make work.

As for why we all love him - he is mysterious, big, and doesn't die. Also cool looking. People are seeking his true identity - but that annoys me - he has no true identity, he derrives from the towns past...and there are as many of him as the town wants...he's a monster that, to me, represents the nature of the towns "magic", above and beyond the cult and practices of the people in it. Same with Valetiel

Post by **pink_isnt_well000** » 13 Mar 2006

He doesn't die?......

Post by **ravern** » 13 Mar 2006

Smokey wrote:
ravern wrote:why does everything in silent hil have to be pyramd hea.d am sorry but ove the years i have herad many monster in silent hill are pyramid head which i don't get. cant u just leave pyramid head allown?

no offence but m in a mood today
Pyramid head was the most unique monster in SH2 as it directly related to the town and James was a secondary - as all the other creatures directly related to James with the town's influence as a secondary. So, while I understand not using creatures from the first (giant bugs and birds won't cut it in this film, guys, sorry) for atmospheric purposes - pyramid head is easy to wrap around the story and give new meaning to as his physical representation goes directly back to the cult of that town. It can also be manipulated to play a crucial role in all of Alessa's torment. Of course - bringing pyramid head into the film is something for the fans - but he is a very easy character to make work.

As for why we all love him - he is mysterious, big, and doesn't die. Also cool looking. People are seeking his true identity - but that annoys me - he has no true identity, he derrives from the towns past...and there are as many of him as the town wants...he's a monster that, to me, represents the nature of the towns "magic", above and beyond the cult and practices of the people in it. Same with Valetiel

i kniow about the reason to pyramid head and shit like that

am on about when poeple say hes more than one character in a movie and stuff

if hes in a different form then he aint got a pyramid andthere for can't be cal;l;ed pyramid head

that what i am on about. not why he was in the movie

stop trying to say that pyramid head is more than one character in a game or a movie. its rather annoying

Post by **pink_isnt_well000** » 13 Mar 2006

Let people believe what they want.

Post by **Michael** » 14 Mar 2006

I was only curious. Maybe they made him into The Janitor as a plot twist. Maybe the director or something made a little plot twist. Now fuck off with the negativity! lol

Post by **Bobthevila** » 15 Mar 2006

Well there are 2 pheads hehe(but I hope he aint the janitor too). So he appears to be multi....more then one...might even be the exact people on the hanging painting in that room w the hanging noise, yet the angle yont move up to see if anything is moving up there. Yaknow the one w the 2 other paintings about the prison? Go to fraglin1's myspace for the bright phead pic apart of it shows white or plain metal color showing...might be them. Or to decendence

Post by **D90** » 15 Mar 2006

Do we even know if the Janitor is significant?
He could just be a thing they walk past.

Post by **amphreded** » 15 Mar 2006

I think he'll be quite important, but maybe in a Valtiel-ish way. Not a lot of presence, but a lot of signification.

Post by **pink_isnt_well000** » 15 Mar 2006

Like we'll see him around but never really get a reason for him being there?

Post by **Neoholmesz** » 26 Oct 2006

You're absolutely right on the like-ness thing because if you see the DVD extras you find out the same actor plays the janitor while still alive, the dead janitor, and pyramid head. I doubt they actually tie in together somehow in the storyline though. Isn't PH supposed to be like a demon who enforces the laws of SH? Or just torments people...

Colin was just a big part of Alessa's pain because of what he did to her. I think he was just punished and that PH is of a much higher status than him.

Post by **allways bumed** » 27 Oct 2006

The only reason the bodies of the jantior and ph look alike is because they were played by the same person.......Oh,and the janitor rapped young Allessa

Post by **Hannah** » 27 Oct 2006

Neoholmesz wrote:You're absolutely right on the like-ness thing because if you see the DVD extras you find out the same actor plays the janitor while still alive, the dead janitor, and pyramid head. I doubt they actually tie in together somehow in the storyline though. Isn't PH supposed to be like a demon who enforces the laws of SH? Or just torments people... Colin was just a big part of Alessa's pain because of what he did to her. I think he was just punished and that PH is of a much higher status than him.

I believe they got the coordinator of something to play both of the parts because nobody else could.

Post by **Harrys_Girl** » 28 Oct 2006

I do believe that Ph in the movie is the same as the janitor. He raped Alessa and she fears him(duh) for it. Even though she has the power to trap all those who've
hurt her in purgatory, she still fears him for hurtting her internally and as most rape victims, can never get over the trama. That is why he is a forceful character that will back anyone into a corner, just as he did to young Alessa.

The link between the dead janitor and the live janitor is also present.Alessa has gotten over the human elemant of the janitor who raped her, hence the difference of dead janitor twisted in pain as Alessa feels, but PH has no face due to the fact it was the act that hurt her and it is the act that she can never get over.

Just my therory of course.