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Who the hell is the father of Alessa?
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I love it when people agree with me *panda high five*Lucy wrote:I think that Allessas father simply had a fling with Dahlia and left her after she became pregnant, so the whole "She didn't have a father like the other children" meant that everyone thought it a disgrace that Alessa was from a one parent family.
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Well aparently you guys haven't heard of the "Inquistions" or any of the beliefs that stemmed or followed them. One belief was that witches (all women by the way) gave themselves to demons/devil in whole as part of the bargain for power. Which of course means to get nailed by them(among a dozen or more patriarchial discrimnations against women but ahhh I digress.) Dahlia's sister may have felt that the only to save her was for her to give up her sin (Alessa) up. The reference to Sammael being an incubus is interesting since these demons have been thought to seduce and have sex with women. In some cultures they are thought of as ethereal; so no proof of conception could exist. Also SH is a universe of grey and just because some one is born of evil and sin doesn't therefore make them evil. To keep things simple though Sam took it upon it's self to nuture the hate within it child to destroy it's bitter enemy.
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you seem to be forgetting thatjerberson12 wrote:ok it is clearly stated we dont know the father of Alessa, But who are the parents of Sharon? All i know is:
Rose adopted her from an orphanage. I know Sharon is the good side of Alessa but where did she really come from BIOLOGICALLY? Alessa's uterus? If magically, how? Did evil alessa had a Magic wand and said abracadabra?
PS If youll tell me Sharon is Alessa's daughter, that was 30 years ago and Sharon was only like 10
1 this is a movie
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2 it takes place in a little west virginian resort town called Silent Hill.
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3 alessa is alessa, if she wanted to have a baby that vcould be adopted from an orphanage then, you know what? she could.
if you don,t get it by now, you havent been paying attention.
Edit: Cmon now, she,s practically the god of death, she doesnt need a father.
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I really think that the father is Kaufmann! Everybody, think back to the first SH game for a second. Remember? Weren't Dahlia and Kaufmann together? I mean, yeah, it's been a really long time since I played the game, but I DO remember something about Dahlia and Kaufmann being Alessa's parents (more of an inference you have to make when you're playing the series) but it's there, I'm pretty sure...
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That would mean the Janitor raped his illegitimate daughter. Ew.If anything, it wouldn't completely surprise me if the Janitor had raped Dahlia and Alessa was the product of it. Dahlia probably would have felt it was something She'd done wrong, and carried the secret to her grave.
As for the people who mentioned the Virgin Birth, I'm just imagining God trying to have a daughter for the Second Coming, then after the whole movie deal, he's like "Fuck, I screwed up."
But seriously, Alessa's human with human parents, and all her supernatural powers are wholly and purely the Demon's.
[quote="BlackFire2"]I thought he meant the special powers of her vagina.[/quote]
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Personally, I think Alessa was the product of a one night stand, or something that Dahlia would be ashamed of. Perhaps with someone the church didn't approve of?
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Personally, I think Alessa was the product of a one night stand, or something that Dahlia would be ashamed of. Perhaps with someone the church didn't approve of?
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[quote="HunterX"]Reaper makes more sense than "dark alessa" the power existed before and totally separate from Alessa, she's much more than "dark Alessa".
Alessa - is now all evil alessa
Sharon - the good part of alessa that is now separate from her
"Reaper" - demon/Samael that granted alessa's darkest desires, and just now happens to look like a 'dark alessa' but thats just a form....remember Christobella said do not trust what you see the demon will take a form that can influence you! Christobella knows more about this shit than Rose.
Reaper has many names right, so reaper is a convenient name since thats one she gives...I'll call you Ravern, that is the name you give. Sure there could be other ways to identify you, but why make it confusing.[/quote]
OK, they explained this in the games. There was no demon that mad manifest Alessa's desires. It was just that her hate and pain from Dalia's was so palpable and strong that it gave birth to the Alternate Side. Let's not forget, she's not really human. She was made in order to give birth to a demon God/Samael, whatever you call it. So it's not too far a stretch of the imagination that she had the power to do dark and horrible things. But her being burned to a cinder didn't help her become a loving being, now did it? We learned in SH1 that Dalia wanted Alessa's power, and Alessa sensed Dalia malicious intentions, so she hedged. Dalia eventually did make Alessa birth Samael, hence the ultimate boss battle, but Dalia did not care for Alessa's reluctance, so she was immolated, and Alessa wanted to get even. Enter the Alternate Side, with Alessa's dreams made manifest.
Alessa - is now all evil alessa
Sharon - the good part of alessa that is now separate from her
"Reaper" - demon/Samael that granted alessa's darkest desires, and just now happens to look like a 'dark alessa' but thats just a form....remember Christobella said do not trust what you see the demon will take a form that can influence you! Christobella knows more about this shit than Rose.
Reaper has many names right, so reaper is a convenient name since thats one she gives...I'll call you Ravern, that is the name you give. Sure there could be other ways to identify you, but why make it confusing.[/quote]
OK, they explained this in the games. There was no demon that mad manifest Alessa's desires. It was just that her hate and pain from Dalia's was so palpable and strong that it gave birth to the Alternate Side. Let's not forget, she's not really human. She was made in order to give birth to a demon God/Samael, whatever you call it. So it's not too far a stretch of the imagination that she had the power to do dark and horrible things. But her being burned to a cinder didn't help her become a loving being, now did it? We learned in SH1 that Dalia wanted Alessa's power, and Alessa sensed Dalia malicious intentions, so she hedged. Dalia eventually did make Alessa birth Samael, hence the ultimate boss battle, but Dalia did not care for Alessa's reluctance, so she was immolated, and Alessa wanted to get even. Enter the Alternate Side, with Alessa's dreams made manifest.
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1) The movie is NOT the games. It's a new story entirely.OK, they explained this in the games. There was no demon that mad manifest Alessa's desires. It was just that her hate and pain from Dalia's was so palpable and strong that it gave birth to the Alternate Side. Let's not forget, she's not really human. She was made in order to give birth to a demon God/Samael, whatever you call it. So it's not too far a stretch of the imagination that she had the power to do dark and horrible things. But her being burned to a cinder didn't help her become a loving being, now did it? We learned in SH1 that Dalia wanted Alessa's power, and Alessa sensed Dalia malicious intentions, so she hedged. Dalia eventually did make Alessa birth Samael, hence the ultimate boss battle, but Dalia did not care for Alessa's reluctance, so she was immolated, and Alessa wanted to get even. Enter the Alternate Side, with Alessa's dreams made manifest.
2) Alessa was human, but she was impregnated through magic.
3) Samael doesn't exist. That was a lie.
4) Well, Alessa was pretty loving. I mean, she goes to martyr means of trying to spare Earth the wrath of God and such.
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I seriously think she is just the result of a fling between Dahlia and some guy she may have knew. Te fact she she wasn't married at the time of having a child and had no plans to do so, would have resulted in a great stigma toward both herself and her child (Alessa). It's only in the past 10-20 (give or take) years or so that it has become socially acceptable to be a single mother.
As for Colin being Alessa's father, that is pretty stupid. There is no proof that he is connected to Dahlia is any way, he was just a part of a sequence of events that really screwed Alessa up.
As for Colin being Alessa's father, that is pretty stupid. There is no proof that he is connected to Dahlia is any way, he was just a part of a sequence of events that really screwed Alessa up.
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>She was made in order to give birth to a demon God/Samael
False. In the game, she was born naturally & raised to be a priestess of the Order, just like her mother.
>It's strange why I have this feelings that Gucci could be Alessa's father.
Gucci would've been about thirteen years old when Alessa was born. So: No.
False. In the game, she was born naturally & raised to be a priestess of the Order, just like her mother.
>It's strange why I have this feelings that Gucci could be Alessa's father.
Gucci would've been about thirteen years old when Alessa was born. So: No.
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