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Brookhaven Receptionist
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I was thinking, could Leonard Rhine be the guy hanging there?

perhaps he wrote a warning message in his blood and signed it before he died


if not I'd actually like to see Leonard Rhine appear in Silent Hill 5 in some way(character, boss, whatever)


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Historical Society Historian
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I can't believe I didn't consider that.


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Missing since: 13 Mar 2006
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I find Leonard Rhine being in SH fairly unfeasable, since other than his message has no connection to the plot and events happening there.

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Think of Italy — which reminds me of California in so many ways — and its chronic inability to form a government. That’s California, with even better food and no parliamentary system.
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Hope House Careworker
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I just made a read over the 'Phantom' novel. The team might have probably looked through the book first before building the town.

The name Rhine is also German. So, I guess he was kind of German.


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 27 Jan 2008
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Is there a source that has a list of all the book/art/music/movie/tv show references in Silent Hill? I'd love to know so I can look them all up sometime.


Books
Phantoms by Dean Koontz
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Lost World by Conan Doyle

Arts
Francis Bacon
Hans Bellmer
Joel Peter Witkin

Films
Session 9 by Brad Anderson
Jacob's Ladder by Adrian Lynn
David Lynch's films +Twin Peaks (TV Series)
David Cronenberg's films
The Shining

This is all I could find on such short notice. Hope it helps :)

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Hope House Careworker
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Missing since: 24 Jun 2007
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The Procrastinator wrote:
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Is there a source that has a list of all the book/art/music/movie/tv show references in Silent Hill? I'd love to know so I can look them all up sometime.


Books
Phantoms by Dean Koontz
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Lost World by Conan Doyle

Arts
Francis Bacon
Hans Bellmer
Joel Peter Witkin

Films
Session 9 by Brad Anderson
Jacob's Ladder by Adrian Lynn
David Lynch's films +Twin Peaks (TV Series)
David Cronenberg's films
The Shining

This is all I could find on such short notice. Hope it helps :)


Interesting list.


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 27 Jan 2008
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Not exactly the answer I expected, but ... Like I said -- hope it helps.

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Hope House Careworker
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Not exactly the answer I expected, but ... Like I said -- hope it helps.


No, seriously, great job. :D


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Just Passing Through
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Thanks. I found it somewhere on the forum a while back, and I saved it.
I knew it would come in handy :mrgreen:
I'm also in the process of checking out this stuff.

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Hope House Careworker
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Thanks. I found it somewhere on the forum a while back, and I saved it.
I knew it would come in handy :mrgreen:
I'm also in the process of checking out this stuff.


Wish we had a thumb up smiley here.

In case you check the Phantoms, don't be surprised if you find a lot of stuff similar between the book and the game.


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 27 Jan 2008
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I've been meaning to get the book for some time now, and I'm gonna git it tommorow, probably.
I hear it's quite good -- would you agree?

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Hope House Careworker
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I've been meaning to get the book for some time now, and I'm gonna git it tommorow, probably.
I hear it's quite good -- would you agree?


Well, you can get the movie as well. But the movie has a different ending to the one in the book, so its better to read the book.


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Just Passing Through
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I know it's over a year since there was a posting on this thread, but I just started playing through SH1 again and noticed the Leonard Rhine writing on the wall and was curious as to what it meant. And, seeing as I've never read "Phantoms," I obviously wouldn't get the reference.

I think I might check that book out by the way, it sound pretty interesting from what I'm reading.

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Pool of blood, sea of fire, and needle mountains. It is the lullaby of Hell.


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Missing since: 25 Mar 2009
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I know it's over a year since there was a posting on this thread, but I just started playing through SH1 again and noticed the Leonard Rhine writing on the wall and was curious as to what it meant. And, seeing as I've never read "Phantoms," I obviously wouldn't get the reference.

I think I might check that book out by the way, it sound pretty interesting from what I'm reading.


In the library in Midwich, there are two books. One is a book on psychics by Leonard Rhine. The other is a fairy tale about a hunter and a lizard called "The Monster Lurks." The message on the wall is simply telling the player to go to the library and find those books, since it explains an important aspect of Alessa and how to beat a certain boss.

I'm not sure if you have to read that message before the game lets you read the books, or if you can read the books without seeing the message. But if someone wants to try it, go right ahead.


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They are making all these stuff just to scare you, that's all...


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 23 Jun 2009
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Last seen at: Springfield, OR
The Procrastinator wrote:
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Is there a source that has a list of all the book/art/music/movie/tv show references in Silent Hill? I'd love to know so I can look them all up sometime.


Books
Phantoms by Dean Koontz
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Lost World by Conan Doyle

Arts
Francis Bacon
Hans Bellmer
Joel Peter Witkin

Films
Session 9 by Brad Anderson
Jacob's Ladder by Adrian Lynn
David Lynch's films +Twin Peaks (TV Series)
David Cronenberg's films
The Shining

This is all I could find on such short notice. Hope it helps :)


Great list! I'm in the process of finding Jacobs Ladder. I can't wait to see it. I was suprised to find out that David Lynch refrenced Silent Hill in one of his films. I'm interested to see his work, but I think i'll skip Eraser Head. :shock:


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^ other way around, really. In Silent Hill 2, the plot element of finding the tape was taken from David Lynch's film, 'Lost Highway'; also in Silent Hill 2, the rape scene with pyramid head is taken from David Lynch's 'Blue Velvet'. But you probably knew that already.

Eraserhead is one of his best films, but I would not suggest watching it as your introduction to his work.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 26 Jun 2009
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game_over wrote:
The Procrastinator wrote:
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Is there a source that has a list of all the book/art/music/movie/tv show references in Silent Hill? I'd love to know so I can look them all up sometime.


Books
Phantoms by Dean Koontz
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Lost World by Conan Doyle

Arts
Francis Bacon
Hans Bellmer
Joel Peter Witkin

Films
Session 9 by Brad Anderson
Jacob's Ladder by Adrian Lynn
David Lynch's films +Twin Peaks (TV Series)
David Cronenberg's films
The Shining

This is all I could find on such short notice. Hope it helps :)


Interesting list.


I do remember the refrence to Little Shop of Horrors. Also their was the poster of I think a band somewhere. Um Every street name is a refrence...Wow I can't think of many because their is to many!


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 23 Jun 2009
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^ other way around, really. In Silent Hill 2, the plot element of finding the tape was taken from David Lynch's film, 'Lost Highway'; also in Silent Hill 2, the rape scene with pyramid head is taken from David Lynch's 'Blue Velvet'. But you probably knew that already.

Eraserhead is one of his best films, but I would not suggest watching it as your introduction to his work.


I didn't know that, actually. I've heard a lot about 'Blue Velvet'. I think i'll watch that first. I wouldn't wanna miss one of his best films, but it just sounds too disturbing for me :(
I heard that, in one of David's films, there's a place called 'Club Silencio'. Someone told me it was supposed to be a nod toward Silent Hill. Is that untrue?


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Brookhaven Receptionist
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Missing since: 17 Sep 2009
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"The monster Lurks" is not the book talking about the fairy tale lizard. That book is unnamed.

In the library when Harry comes across the book he says "The Monster Lurks is the book's title." He doesn't mention the author, but it's presumed to be Leonard Rhine, because of the bloody wall writing.

And the following is what the book says:
"
Chapter 3:
"Manifestation of Delusions"
...Poltergeists are among these. Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or
stress manifest into external energy with physical effects. Nightmares
have, in some cases, been shown to trigger them. However, one such
phenomenon doesn't appear to happen to just anyone. Although it's not
clear why, adolescents, especially girls, are prone to such occurrences.
"

It helps explain Alessa and why her dreams have changed Silent Hill.


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