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Just Passing Through
 Post subject: But...but....Kaufman had an agreement! (SPOILERS)
     
         
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Kaufman wrote:
But what so remains captured in that husk... is buried deep down in the subconscious. Are you trying to say it won't work? That wasn't our agreement!

Dahlia wrote:
No, no. These are just stalling tactics. If we lend a hand we will be able to get power. Never fear. The promise shall not be broken.


Just what was the agreement? It was my understanding that Kaufman supplied drugs to Silent Hill, but what did Alessa have to do with his plans? What was this "promise" that Dahlia made to him?

My theory is this...
Dahlia filled Kaufmans head full of the idea that the mother of god will bring in more followers than ever before. Seeing that the usuall supply brought great results to the town as it was, he began to get greedy at the thought of even more followers. Adamant about the promise Dahlia made to him, he refused to leave her alone.

Anyone else have ideas?

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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Poor Michael-chan!!! :(


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Just Passing Through
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Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
Poor Michael-chan!!! :(


The man had issues, he should have taken his own stash, make his life a little easier. :wink:

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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The_Stickman wrote:
Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
Poor Michael-chan!!! :(


The man had issues, he should have taken his own stash, make his life a little easier. :wink:


Yes I know but I still love em! :) :wink:


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Just Passing Through
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Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
The_Stickman wrote:
Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
Poor Michael-chan!!! :(


The man had issues, he should have taken his own stash, make his life a little easier. :wink:


Yes I know but I still love em! :) :wink:


Any theories about this subject? I would love to hear some.

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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well maybe, he wanted to be the hero? I have no idea ^^


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Cafe5to2 Waitress
 Post subject: Re: But...but....Kaufman had an agreement! (SPOILERS)
     
         
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Missing since: 20 Dec 2005
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The_Stickman wrote:
Kaufman wrote:
But what so remains captured in that husk... is buried deep down in the subconscious. Are you trying to say it won't work? That wasn't our agreement!

Dahlia wrote:
No, no. These are just stalling tactics. If we lend a hand we will be able to get power. Never fear. The promise shall not be broken.


Just what was the agreement? It was my understanding that Kaufman supplied drugs to Silent Hill, but what did Alessa have to do with his plans? What was this "promise" that Dahlia made to him?

My theory is this...
Dahlia filled Kaufmans head full of the idea that the mother of god will bring in more followers than ever before. Seeing that the usuall supply brought great results to the town as it was, he began to get greedy at the thought of even more followers. Adamant about the promise Dahlia made to him, he refused to leave her alone.

Anyone else have ideas?


It's difficult to say if he truly believed in the Cult's teachings, but he surely did not expect THAT kind of paradise ("Quit screwing around! Return things to how they were before! Did I ask for this!? Nobody uses me! You won't get away with this!"). It is possible that he only wanted to see the birth of God out of scientific interest, or maybe he wanted power (blackmailing God with Aglaophtis), or maybe he didn't believe in it at all and only wanted Dahlia's money, but he did believe in the power of Aglaophtis, that’s why he saved one in his secret place.

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Historical Society Historian
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Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
The_Stickman wrote:
Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
Poor Michael-chan!!! :(


The man had issues, he should have taken his own stash, make his life a little easier. :wink:


Yes I know but I still love em! :) :wink:



.. :(

Their agreement? World domination, of course!


But really, I don't know. I always assumed it had something to do with power, that Dahlia and Kauffman were both out to trick each other and in the same instance trying to make it seem like they were joining forces--they both had their own ideas in mind as far as the cult's success was concerned. Dahlia bringing forth the essence of God, Kauffman using drugs to control others. And in tricking each other they both used Alessa. What confuses me, though, is what power or stronghold Kauffman had in this whole plot.. Possibly, to control others, Kauffman's "stash" was needed by Dahlia after the birth of God? Maybe she wanted to create some bizarre paradise with everyone as pawns? God help me I'm struggling for answers.

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Just Passing Through
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Krist. wrote:
Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
The_Stickman wrote:
Katie_Dombrowski wrote:
Poor Michael-chan!!! :(


The man had issues, he should have taken his own stash, make his life a little easier. :wink:


Yes I know but I still love em! :) :wink:



.. :(

Their agreement? World domination, of course!


But really, I don't know. I always assumed it had something to do with power, that Dahlia and Kauffman were both out to trick each other and in the same instance trying to make it seem like they were joining forces--they both had their own ideas in mind as far as the cult's success was concerned. Dahlia bringing forth the essence of God, Kauffman using drugs to control others. And in tricking each other they both used Alessa. What confuses me, though, is what power or stronghold Kauffman had in this whole plot.. Possibly, to control others, Kauffman's "stash" was needed by Dahlia after the birth of God? Maybe she wanted to create some bizarre paradise with everyone as pawns? God help me I'm struggling for answers.


That almost sounds like my theory. Dahlia creates a world that Kaufman can sell the drugs to. But Kaufman hadn't anticipated just how extreme the outcome was.

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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Historical Society Historian
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Naturally. Didn't he have a backup case of Aglaophotis just for that purpose? He created it to thwart Dahlia's plans, because he never wanted them to come to fruition. Dahlia found the case he had in his office and destroyed it. Thus he kept a spare at the Inn..

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Just Passing Through
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Krist. wrote:
Naturally. Didn't he have a backup case of Aglaophotis just for that purpose? He created it to thwart Dahlia's plans, because he never wanted them to come to fruition. Dahlia found the case he had in his office and destroyed it. Thus he kept a spare at the Inn..


He was prepared for problems, but he himself stated he never expected any of "this" to happen.

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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One has greed for control over the otherworld, another has greed for control over the inhabitants. Simple.


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One has greed for control over the otherworld, another has greed for control over the inhabitants. Simple.


You just summed my theory into one sentence. :D

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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Kauffman comes off as a business man. Very determined and yes, manipulative. He never once said anything regarding god or the religion.
He seemed to be content in dealing with the drug(s) as a business matter only. He saw Dahlias idea for more followers as a prize for himself. More people, more drugs, more business, more mulah.

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The fact that you responded to my four year old post, required me to sign onto this old name and voice how impressed I am with your skill in Necromancy. :shock:

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"...more specifically, the creatures manifested of ones
mind could become physical via mental stress and
the deterioration of ones perspective of reality...
...Poltergeists are among these.
Negative emotions, like fear, worry, or stress manifest
Into external energy with physical effects.
Nightmares have, in some cases, been shown to trigger
Them. However one such phenomena doesn't appear
To happen to just anyone. Although it's
Not clear why, adolescents, especially girls,
Are prone to such occurrences.


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Wasn't this in the quick-links? If so, it's not that impressive.

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