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Yeah, I'm a witch actually, but I was just saying that ritual magic in the real world (obviously) doesn't work like that. There's complicated stuff going on here. They've got some serious mojo over in that Cult <3

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>The area of Silent Hill later becoming her playground of chaos.<
That's not really true, though. Alessa may have created the [otherside], but she isn't necessarily in control of it. The town's power made her fears and worries manifest. The monsters aren't puppets she has on strings, attacking Harry.

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SilentWren wrote:
Yeah, I'm a witch actually, but I was just saying that ritual magic in the real world (obviously) doesn't work like that. There's complicated stuff going on here. They've got some serious mojo over in that Cult <3


Well, obviously. It's a fictional universe where magic acts more like the stuff of Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia instead of the symbolical, semi-metaphorical and subtle forms of magic practiced by real life paganism.

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^I just wanted to say that the way you worded that was epic.

But I don't think it's really on the same level as LOTR. Having a messed up haunted town is one thing, but in the universes you referenced, the entire known multiverse was like that.

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>That's not really true, though. Alessa may have created the [otherside], but she isn't necessarily in control of it. The town's power made her fears and worries manifest. The monsters aren't puppets she has on strings, attacking Harry.

What you say is true. I was speaking more in reference to her using it to evade her mother during the playthrough.

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But I don't think it's really on the same level as LOTR.

I thought Aura was sarcastic.

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I was drawing a comparison between universes where magic has blatant, unignorable effects that fly in the face of everything we know about the natural world, as opposed to real-life magic as practiced by paganism, that sees it as a subtle manipulation of luck and chance in ways that a normal person could chalk up to lucky coincidences.

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What?!?!Whatthefuckisnormalanywayfuckyou.....

(Just kidding!)

Ok, I understand what you were saying now, but the 'magic' is Silent Hill follows an odd set of rules, and I am wondering why. I can't get into anything about Shepard's Glen without copying everything that was in Drew's other thread, so I won't bother.

It just seems like the rules of the otherworld change too much. I know it is specific to the individual, but still.

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Ok, I understand what you were saying now, but the 'magic' is Silent Hill follows an odd set of rules, and I am wondering why.


It's magic, is why.

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It just seems like the rules of the otherworld change too much. I know it is specific to the individual, but still.


Magic is one thing, the Otherworld is another. The Otherworld follows some rules that are simple, but allowing for emergent complexity:

1) People can be brought into the Otherworld from reality
2) The Otherworld magnetically attracts people with darkness in their hearts (darkness meaning not necessarily evil or guilt, but things one can't bear to face about themselves, even if it's just intense loneliness).
3) The Otherworld brings the unconscious content of your mind out and makes it a physical reality, like a mirror, or a canvas for the "paints" of your soul.
4) The Otherworld can ignore time and space; it does this in order to allow thoughts to communicate without barriers, linking people who are "similar". This is why James meets the other characters, and this is how ghosts persist. It may also explain clairvoyant visions of the future characters have had.

The world of SH4 is not the Otherworld, by the way, but a separate dimension Walter created with it's own rules.

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I suposse there could have been other Otherworlds spawned from other peoples along the history of Silent Hill, right? Or maybe Alessa was the first with such powers? I don´t know if in the games they say something about this.
But... it's the same than SH2, there, normal people, like James, and Angela, entered an Otherworld that hadn't nothing to do with Alessa, but that shares similarities with her Otherworld, like the the look of the monsters, and being all detroyed with the bottomless rifts in the streets, and the rusty and bloody metallic grates in all the buildings...
Maybe all the Otherworlds shares common themes, even before Alessa, what you think?


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As i have learned from the series is that Alessa had powers from her own; Dahlia abused them in order for Alessa to bring forth God. This backlashed ofcourse, causing otherworlds and the story of SH1
In 3 we learn that Dahlia possibly has some powers, and causes God inside Heather to stir again, leading up to the story in SH3


You mean Claudia possibly has some powers in sh3, not dahlia lol.
You are correct though otherwise

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