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Just Passing Through
 Post subject: What if.... (spoilers of Lisa's fate)
     
         
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Missing since: 09 Dec 2010
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I dunno if this was already posted, but I didin't find it...
So the question is....
What would've happened if Harry didin't push Lisa back when she tried to come to his arms?
It's been bugging me from the very first time I played it, so post your opinion, cause I don't have a clue....

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Historical Society Historian
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He'd probably end up being hurt or something like this.

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My Bestsellers Clerk
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She'd have succeeded in giving him a goodbye kiss. I hate you Harry! :(


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Just Passing Through
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Violent Corpse wrote:
She'd have succeeded in giving him a goodbye kiss. I hate you Harry! :(

Oh Harry, that good moment breaker... :D

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Gravedigger
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Mention Lisa in the topic if it's about her. I don't like to think about her demise any longer than necessary. Definitely most traumatic experience in any video game for me. WHERE DID HER BODY GO!? Someone tell me!

And Harry... I think it's time for a re-do. When they update this game, and I know they will someday according to the amount of letters I have written (didn't), they should provide an option to allow Lisa to come to him. I'll take the resulting consequences if it's for her happiness. She gets used, abused, and then loses. And it's not fair! Eff you Kaufman. haha

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Well..if she wanted one last sample of the "pipe"....:wink:....before she died, i'd given it to her...she did still look great in that cutscene during the final seconds of her life...it would've been the best 15 seconds of her life...:lol:...yes i'm sick i know...


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Harry would be raped for 15 seconds. :)

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WHERE DID HER BODY GO!? Someone tell me!


It vanished, just like she magically rose out of the floor to get Kauffman in the end. She's not much different from a ghost.

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We can use this thread for different What if's...

Bad thing I can't think in anything right now...


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Historical Society Historian
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^different what ifs for the first game specifically, you mean? I think that would make it a game thread, though. Unless it was limited to relevant stuff such as the endings. (Right?)

But, to answer the question, I think Lisa would've just cried on his shoulder for awhile and then turned into one of the puppet nurses. (Maybe)
She may or may not have actually attacked Harry, though--We know from most of the endings that she still had a degree of awareness at that point, because she had a personal vendetta against Kauffman and acted on it.
It seems unlikely (to me) that would see her attack only him if she went all "full puppet."

But if that's the case, I don't think they thought that scene out well enough. If it was just a "here ya go fans! See? She got him after alll!! Does it matter that it wasn't on purpose?!" then I'd be a little pissed.

Something random: I'm making fajitas right now.

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My Bestsellers Clerk
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Harry would have a very bloody sweater. The one he just bought, too!!!

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Subway Guard
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I don't think there could be a "what if" for that moment. Who wouldn't push away a person who just started oozing blood from every pore? He was freaked out, so instinctively pushed her away and ran off. I think a more appropriate "what if" would be "what if she was still in that room when Harry returns?"


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Just Passing Through
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Soulless-Shadow wrote:
I don't think there could be a "what if" for that moment. Who wouldn't push away a person who just started oozing blood from every pore? He was freaked out, so instinctively pushed her away and ran off. I think a more appropriate "what if" would be "what if she was still in that room when Harry returns?"

Lisa didin't start bleeding when she tried to get to Harry, she did when HE pushed her off...
And sorry bout' the thread's title...
Kinda screwed up... :?

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Historical Society Historian
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So now Harry is to blame? He was the one that hurt the almighty Lisa? :roll:

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Historical Society Historian
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Lisa fanfolks amuse me. :P I still don't understand why she's viewed as this perfect innocent being... Harry did the right thing, yes she was freaking out but you have to remember by the time of her death, everything around him was getting really bizarre. Can you blame him for not letting her get close? I definitely can't.


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Gravedigger
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I have difficulty remembering the exact scenes because I only played SH1 once when it was a new game, but Lisa's death haunts me above all things in the SH Universe. I understand why it happened, and I guess I can understand why Harry would push her away... but not that her body was just gone. haha.

Aura likens it to a ghost vanishing, but that raises even MORE questions, to whether or not she is actually alive when you meet her. And if that's brought in to question, what about any other characters you meet? Are they alive at all? What if man. WHAT IF!

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While watching the scene, it looks as though she doesn't start to bleed until she brushes up against the wall, IMO


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Aura likens it to a ghost vanishing, but that raises even MORE questions, to whether or not she is actually alive when you meet her. And if that's brought in to question, what about any other characters you meet? Are they alive at all? What if man. WHAT IF!


I thought it was pretty obvious. I mean most fans speculate that she's a ghost already anyway (or a construct like Maria, but same diff).

What If....the Ambulance ending was true?

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Gravedigger
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So, it's up to use the accept some characters could be ghosts while others aren't? Then, what about Kaufman? When she pulls him down into the hellfires, does that mean he was a ghost as well?... Or whatever in the world they are.

Ambulance Ending... NOT TRUE. There could be no SH3 then. Unless that's a second hallucination.

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*cue lightning flash*

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What If....the Ambulance ending was true?


Then I would have to murder someone. Come to think of it, I wish the SHE would've had "The Lost Ambulance Ending" in it's features.
That probably just would've confused people, though. :lol:

So....I seriously was the only person who thought Lisa still had some self-awareness? Gosh, now I'm bummed.

To address ^
I'm pretty sure Dr. K is still alive during the game. Ghosts don't throw things, do they? (???)

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