Tillerman wrote:Soulless-Shadow wrote:Maybe, just maybe, it's possible for God to take the image of however summons it. Oh, hey, that's exactly what happens.
So, the Woman in White is a form it takes, and thus is the God. However, just like Wigeke said, there's a good chance that the God is nothing more than a really powerful manifestation created by the cult's fanaticism and the powers of the area. People (including myself) only call it "God" for simplicities sake.
Right. So there's wiggle room to believe that the form of god you see handing Harry the baby is a form summoned by Cheryl's spirit.
Now we're just arguing ourselves round in circles.
Tillerman wrote:Soulless-Shadow wrote:Now, I admit I'm not much of a theologist (is that a real thing?),
and I'm not even Catholic, but I know that in the Bible the Holy Spirit is indeed God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all Him. Google it. *edit* Hey, you don't have to google it. It's all right
here.
It's really confusing. They're all the same god, yet also seperate somehow. I never understood that. But yeah, you're right.
I don't get how it's confusing. I understand it completely, and I'm an atheist. Or agnostic. I haven't decided yet.
(and yes, I realize they're completely different view points. I tend to switch between the two)
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are simply different facets of the same being. Sort of like the two sides to a coin. Only in this instance, it's three rather than two. It's similar with Incubator and Incubus. The same, but different, but the same.
Tillerman wrote:Soulless-Shadow wrote:You're just arguing for the sake of arguing, aren't you?
Not at all... if you want to think that the lady in white is a trick by god, I think that's a good theory, and makes sense. I'm just saying that it seems to me like there's room for alternate theories.
More circles.
Tillerman wrote:Soulless-Shadow wrote:Form of God = God in whatever form it wishes to present itself in = God.
Generally I agree, although I don't think it's quite that clear cut. "Form of god" is a bit of a vague way to put it, and there's wiggle room for other meanings, like for example it could mean "a spirit taking the form that it believes is god." It's not 100% clear from that article if all those are actually meant to be the same entity.
There's nothing vague about it. "Form of God" is simply the form it chose to present itself in. Think of it like this; outwardly it's different, inwardly it's the same, regardless of what form it appears in. It's like in SH3 when we change Heather's clothes. Her outward appearance changes, and depending on the outfit her abilities, but that's all.
Tillerman wrote:And even if they are (which I agree, I think they are) then it doesn't rule out that Alessa/Cheryl's souls could also be a part of that form, and remain in some fashion after the god is killed by Harry. Personally, I think the intent of the writers of SH1 was that Alessa/Cheryl were absorbed into that god, and after you kill it what you see as the lady in white is the remains of Cheryl's soul, which makes sense because of the "Daddy" you hear.
I never argued that her soul wasn't there somewhere. It had to have been somewhere there in order for the God to reincarnate her. However, the evidence all points to the Woman in White always being God, and never anyone else. Oops, more circles.