Awesome PH and Valtiel model sculpts

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 19 May 2009

I got the 3D model of PH as well from someone on another forum and plan to use it as the main basis for a sculpted figure as well.

Can't believe you forgot who gave you that sweet stuff

Yea, I used the in game model but had to clean it up first so it would subdivide properly

WOW. Did you manually delete the extra edges in Maya/MAX to get a quad edgeflow or did you just re-topologize the mesh in ZBrush?

It's funny too because I was going to do the same thing you are: Detail him in ZBrush and have him 3D printed. Only problem is a 3D print job is stupid-expensive.

Oh, and the Great Knife he's holding in the meshes you guys have: I made that

Post by **Eraserhead** » 19 May 2009

Yea, I manually deleted edges in Maya, I don't like Zbrush's retopology tools. Especially since I had to go in and add bevels on his helmet so it would hold its shape when I subdivided it. it was pretty painstaking. Unfortunately in the process, it destroyed the UVs which I had to redo. I also tried sculpting him in Mudbox but I'm a Zbrush guy

I take it you also work in CG Ratiocinator?

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 19 May 2009

You may want to look into NEX for Maya. You can get a free trial (30 days) but it has an incredible topologizing tool which is easier to use than ZBrush and could save you a tremendous amount of time in the future.

I can't believe you did that by hand! You are crazy but I now admire and respect you for that! Yeah, I work primarily in Maya (especially for environments and assets), do my character/creature work in Maya and Zbrush and occasionally dump data into Unreal Editor to run on the Unreal Engine.

Actually, I just posted a thread with a 3D piece I did which you may find interesting

I'd really love to see some detail and beauty shots of Zbrush PH. I see some incredible folds on the boots/apron, knuckle/digit impressions through the glove and overall texturizing that looks wonderful. I'm proud of you man--you're doing PH such great justice!

Post by **Eraserhead** » 19 May 2009

Ah yes, I use Nex as well! I don't wanna use Maya without it. Unfortunately its not available for Linux

which is what we use at work.

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 19 May 2009

One more picture of the greatness:

Post by **Vixx** » 19 May 2009

And another - this is how I'm hoping to go on in terms of the paint job (well, not me, the guy I'm commissioning!)

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 19 May 2009

If I was in your shoes Vixx I'd be torn between the two color schemes (the one you just posted and the one I posted right before yours). The one you're showing is a lot more menacing, darker and intimidating but the one I posted is more true to his game model--lighter colors and a more vibrant red helmet. I admire your decision for one over another.

Damn... Vixx, Whitney, Silent Evil, EraserHead... SO MUCH GREAT SH STIMULUS GOING AROUND! I haven't felt this great about SH in a long, long time!

Post by **Whitney** » 19 May 2009

Vixx your Pyramid head is going to look fantastic!!! I can't wait until he is complete!!!!

Haha yay glad you're back into the spirit of Silent Hill Ratiocinator!

YouTube · Post by **Silent Evil** » 19 May 2009

Ratiocinator wrote:Can't believe you forgot who gave you that sweet stuff

Not at all Ratiocinator!

I just didn't know that you were a member on this forum too my friend, so I thought it mattered not. Of course if I'd known you were I totally would've credited you by name!

And I second what Whitney had to say, good to have you back with your SH spirits raised once again!

And another - this is how I'm hoping to go on in terms of the paint job (well, not me, the guy I'm commissioning!)

I really like this paint job better than the one Ratiocinator posted, that one struck me as a tad cheap-looking by comparison but it could've just been bad lighting. I think this one represents the character in a far more grittier and realistic fashion, with a helmet that's not as overtly bright red.

Despite the moniker of RED Pyramid Thing, aside from the first time you see PH in the game behind the bars in the apartment hallway his helmet doesn't seem all that red to me anyway.

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 21 May 2009

Not sure who made this but probably from Headlong too:

Get this... this is a 1/1 scale sculpture of PH's helmet:

...and a decent nurse sculpt:

YouTube · Post by **Silent Evil** » 21 May 2009

Ratiocinator wrote:Not sure who made this but probably from Headlong too:

Actually it was made by a Japanese garage kit company called Hellpainter, and the nurse you found as well.

Whitney and I had a discussion about these in pages way back over in the Collections thread:

http://silenthillforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 513#420513

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 21 May 2009

Oops, my apologies. Well, it'll add to the sculpture thread too then. I saw that Aabstract Daddy sculpt and it looks very nice but at the same time I'm disgusted with it. (If you know what I mean.) I'm not sure how accurate it is to the game's model but if it is then I haven't been paying enough attention to that creature. But hey, if a SH creature sculpture can repulse me then it's doing something right.

Post by **Whitney** » 21 May 2009

Ratiocinator wrote:Oops, my apologies. Well, it'll add to the sculpture thread too then. I saw that Aabstract Daddy sculpt and it looks very nice but at the same time I'm disgusted with it. (If you know what I mean.) I'm not sure how accurate it is to the game's model but if it is then I haven't been paying enough attention to that creature. But hey, if a SH creature sculpture can repulse me then it's doing something right.

Yep all of those are Night Mare model's

I didn't like the Abstract Daddy either! I think if I ever got another model it would be Valtiel or another Pyramid Head! I wish they made models of the human characters!

Post by **Eraserhead** » 22 May 2009

I absolutely love that nurse sculpt!

Its dead on to the game model and the pose is straight out of Masahiro Ito's concept drawing. I"d love to buy that...

The abstract daddy although I like it, isn't all that game acuurate. I have the game model of the abstract daddy and right above and behind that mouth is another head.

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Post by **Vixx** » 22 May 2009

I think this is a key opportunity for Whitney to post close-ups of her Nightmare Nurse model!!

Post by **Eraserhead** » 23 May 2009

Yes, please do! and where and how to go about purchasing one.

Post by **rm2kking** » 20 Jun 2009

Those make my head want to explode with the overload of sheer awesomeness.

Post by **Ratiocinator** » 10 Jul 2009

Additional shots of PH/Valtiel statue with PH being his darker-themed version:

Post by **Whitney** » 10 Jul 2009

so cool.............

Post by **rm2kking** » 10 Jul 2009

Gah... Rm2kking... want....