Why could Alex see Pyramid Head?

Post by **Agent of God** » 10 Jul 2009

Well,if Pyramid Head was Adam's punisher then why did he appear to Alex too?Was he supposed to punish Alex too, in some way?

PRIME_BBCODE_SPOILER_SHOW PRIME_BBCODE_SPOILER:

For Joshua's death

I don't remember anyone else besides James seeing PH in Silent Hill 2 (Maria does not count, see was used as part of the punishment).

So what do you think the reason was that Alex could see him?

Post by **Arsonist** » 10 Jul 2009

It's a communal otherworld. Everyone is seeing the same thing.

And Boogeyman isn't only after Adam, but after all of the Parents of this generation of sacrifices (as evidented by him being in the hotel).

It is not Pyrmaidhead BTW, its Boogeyman. A creature used to scare the kids of Shepherds Glenn for generations with the Boogeyman rhyme. He was feared by every child at some points, so he manifests in the otherworld of SG. He looks like Pyramidhead, because Pyramidhead looks like the executioner of the Order. And the Order is object of the fear in Shepherd's Glenn.

Post by **QuestionSleepZz** » 10 Jul 2009

Fan service >_>
they could have used a differant monster just as easily in my opinion.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 10 Jul 2009

Arsonist is right. Everyone's emotions and fears mixed together to make an Otherworld they're all experiencing. Think like SH1, SH3, SH4, and such, but there's no one person in control.

Post by **Agent of God** » 11 Jul 2009

I agree with all this, but why does he Punish only Adam?Is it because all the others already got punished by the monster manifestations of their kids, while Adam never got involved in the sacrifice?

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 11 Jul 2009

Adam's apparently the only one he caught up to in time to kill. Remember seeing him in the hotel? He was looking for the Mayor, too.

Post by **jdnation** » 11 Jul 2009

Pyramid Head = The Butcher = The Boogeyman as manefestations derived from that of the executioner.

Also in one of the alternate endings Alex does in a sense receive 'punishment' or his 'just rewards' based on what you do...

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 11 Jul 2009

I still don't believe that the Butcher is derived from any Executioner, only that the Executioner and the Butcher share attributes due to a common route. It's like Evolution: It's not that we evolved from apes, but that we and apes have a common ancestor.

Post by **jdnation** » 12 Jul 2009

AuraTwilight wrote:I still don't believe that the Butcher is derived from any Executioner, only that the Executioner and the Butcher share attributes due to a common route. It's like Evolution: It's not that we evolved from apes, but that we and apes have a common ancestor.

I'm a creationist anyway

. But I feel that there are template monster types that can be perceived differently in appearance for all the SH monsters. Not that I'm saying the Butcher is THE executioner. But that neither are the others (Pyramid or Boogeyman), but that they are all derivations.

Post by **mermaid symphony** » 12 Jul 2009

Trying to be serious about the PH ending, I think Alex may have had some sort of connection that wasn't about him feeling guilt about killing Josh/being part of the four families/the three options before the final bossfight. I think Alex may have had a connection to Mary, and SH2's PH WASN'T there as a manifestation of James's sexual frustration, but it was Mary. Therefore all members of the Shepherd family can see him.

Okay, I lied. I wasn't being serious at all.

AuraTwilight wrote:Adam's apparently the only one he caught up to in time to kill. Remember seeing him in the hotel? He was looking for the Mayor, too.

Arsonist wrote:It's a communal otherworld. Everyone is seeing the same thing.

And Boogeyman isn't only after Adam, but after all of the Parents of this generation of sacrifices (as evidented by him being in the hotel).

It is not Pyrmaidhead BTW, its Boogeyman. A creature used to scare the kids of Shepherds Glenn for generations with the Boogeyman rhyme. He was feared by every child at some points, so he manifests in the otherworld of SG. He looks like Pyramidhead, because Pyramidhead looks like the executioner of the Order. And the Order is object of the fear in Shepherd's Glenn.

I think these theories sums it up.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 12 Jul 2009

I'm a creationist anyway

I was using it as an analogy. Whether or not evolution is true has no bearing.

also lolcreationism.

Post by **Seal of Megatron** » 13 Jul 2009

also lolcreationism.

Don't take the piss out of someone just because you don't share their views, there's nothing more ignorant.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 13 Jul 2009

Just because I said "lolcreationism" doesn't mean I was taking the piss out of anyone. I was knocking it's irrelevancy to the discussion on hand more than anything.

There's nothing more ignorant than assuming you know someone's intentions better than what they let on and then making an ass out of yourself in public by criticizing them over something they didn't even fucking do.

Post by **Seal of Megatron** » 15 Jul 2009

I was knocking it's irrelevancy to the discussion on hand more than anything.

No you wern't, you were taking the piss out of creationism, and by association mocking jdnation's views.
And what's this "in public" crap, do you seriously consider an internet forum to be public? you need to get out more.

Post by **Agent of God** » 15 Jul 2009

Jeez, relax people.Drink a cup o' coffee don't be so offensive to each other.
We sure don't want to end up like those yahoos over at YouTube threatening each other!

AND GET BACK ON TOPIC (if there is anything left to discuss)

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 15 Jul 2009

No you wern't, you were taking the piss out of creationism, and by association mocking jdnation's views.

So, what, you can read minds now? Okay, good to know, what am I thinking when I type "lolurajudgementalassholewhogetsworkeduponthingsyouknowshitaboutthatisn'tanyofyourbusinessandshouldreallyleaveuptoamodiftheythinkthere'saproblem"?

And what's this "in public" crap, do you seriously consider an internet forum to be public? you need to get out more.

Anyone can sign up and post or read what goes on in this board. By definition, it's "public."

Post by **Agent of God** » 17 Jul 2009

So, what, you can read minds now? Okay, good to know, what am I thinking when I type "lolurajudgementalassholewhogetsworkeduponthingsyouknowshitaboutthatisn'tanyofyourbusinessandshouldreallyleaveuptoamodiftheythinkthere'saproblem"?

OK, no offense to Seal of Megatron but this was the best STFU I have ever heard/read about

Post by **Seal of Megatron** » 20 Jul 2009

So, what, you can read minds now? Okay, good to know, what am I thinking when I type "lolurajudgementalassholewhogetsworkeduponthingsyouknowshitaboutthatisn'tanyofyourbusinessandshouldreallyleaveuptoamodiftheythinkthere'saproblem

em.......are you coming on to me?....i'm flattered and all, but...
And public my arse, no doubt you holiday in Second Life. Twat.

Post by **Agent of God** » 20 Jul 2009

OK, now you're being ridiculous!

Let's get this over with...shall we?

Post by **Seal of Megatron** » 20 Jul 2009

I just don't like bigots. How do you think he would feel if I started lolhomosexuality style crap. It's not on.