I talked about this when I mentioned how Silent Hill isn't like Ghostbusters. You don't need to have the image of the monster in your subconscious, but rather, only the emotion and feelings needed to call it.KingCrimson wrote: How would it have made its way into his unconscious mind if he didn't see that figure someplace?
My points are:
"The Pyramid Head outfit was the guise of the executioners" is not "the executioners wore helmets."
"When James visited the town, that figure overlapped with his desire for punishment." is not "James went to the Historical Society."
It's not a fact that the Valtiel sect wore helmets, that James visited the Historical Society, that Misty Day is truly a literal real historical painting, or that a person needs to have the image of the monster in their subconscious in order to manifest it. These are all misconceptions I'm trying to disprove.
Then I guess neither of us can prove anything. However, you said that they have "different names" but I showed you sources in which Bogeyman is labeled as "Pyramid Head" which is why I'm hesitant on separating them. I can't prove the Bogeyman is the same monster from SH2, but I can show you that he shares the name "Pyramid Head".Cyrus wrote: What we are (or were) arguing about is whether the Bogeyman in Silent Hill: Homecoming is Pyramid Head from Silent Hill 2.
The entire point of this was to make you less assertive because you initially said "Pyramid Head and the Bogeyman aren't the same entity." as if it were a fact. But as long as you understand the other side and realize that it's not a fact, my job is done and I hope you learned something from this.
The Pyramid Head article is not meant for Pyramid Head solely in SH2, it's meant for everything referred to as "Pyramid Head" and related to Pyramid Head, if that makes sense.
I'm actually a really kind and generous dude in real life, I just sometimes come off as standoffish during debates. I don't like people labeling me as a tyrant and I hate it when people make judgmental statements about me (happens on the wiki, sometimes).AuraTwilight wrote: Your posts just come off as pretty antagonistic and defensive when people disagree with you, calm down.
You said "there's a mural in the prison of two Pyramid Heads on the gallows" but look back at the photo on page 2, and you'll see that they're actually triangles. Meaning they could also be red hoods... so point taken.
And I'm being contrarian so that we don't go around stating nonfactual things. If you hear something over and over again, you begin to believe it. I want to unravel people's core misconceptions about the series. Stuff that seems "obvious" to you may not be so obvious to other people, and just because something may seem obvious, it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.