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 Post subject: Brahms

This is sort of a joint topic.

Gans was curious about the spelling of the town Cybil is from. In both games, SH1 and Sh2, I've seen it spelled "Brahms"....

The other curious thing. Didn't Cybil call it "the next town over"?

According to Sh2, Brahms is 265 miles west from the Observational Deck area. How can Brahms seriously be the next town over?


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>Brahms is 265 miles west from the Observational Deck area.
Try 26.5 miles.

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I looked for a decimal and couldn't find anything....


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Well, that's what it is, given the other two distances mentioned. 1.0, 5.0, & 26.5. You can tell by the rank screen, and how far James has traveled.

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Well, I'm not denying it or anything, since it makes sense.

I'm observing the map and I can see where you think the In Water ending doesn't make sense. The bank looks to be almost a mile from the Observation Deck. But looking at this, I kind of feel the map isn't exactly accurate to the game's design. I just feel the Deck is much closer to the water's edge than the map shows, although there does seem to be a downwards slope.

You dont think its possible that time had elapsed between the FMV and the point to where it fades to black? It seems like he could have driven off Nathan Ave. and ended up in the lake. I wish I could discuss it with you somewhere one on one, instead of getting lost in a topic discussion.


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Well it can be 265 miles from the observation deck but considering the fact that Cybil appears in Old Silent Hill which far in the north of South Vale, the miles may have dropped down a little :P


EDIT: It can possibly be called "the next town over" because maybe it's the closest town to SH :?


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>because maybe it's the closest town to SH
That's just impossible. The state of Iowa is about 250 miles, east-to-west. To say that there are absolutely no cities between Silent Hill and anywhere else for 265 miles is outrageous.

Besides: Ashfield is only six hours away.

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I was going to post this exact same question before the hack,but while it was down I simply came to the conclusion that the M by the distances was meters not miles as americans are use to.I figured they did it with the meteric system since it is an international measuring system.

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meters???

Usually, distances between two locations are in kilometers no?? :lol:

About Brahms being the closest town, can it be the closest town at 2.65 miles??


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Well, it doesnt have to be the closest to be "the next town over"...Over could mean any direction, but I'm assuming West.


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"The next town over" implies the next large, or important, town nearest Silent Hill. For example: Topeka, Kansas is "the next town over" to Lawrence--at, hey, lookit that!: round 25 miles apart.

Seriously. Just check James' travel-distance upon completing the game.

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Take into consideration that if Silent Hill is based anywhere in New England, the "next town over" is usually only around 4 or 5 miles away from the next in most parts.

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Yeah.. New England is rather small and rarely, if ever, has huge gaps between towns and cities. Not even Maine or upstate New York. It would make more sense to have it be 26.5 or even 2.65; Silent Hill is isolated, yes, but not that isolated.

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The problem with it being 2.65 is that: signs aren't made to be that precise. They're generally only made in quarter-miles--.25, .50, .75. The distance here, 2.65, would be highly unusual.

Secondly, the decimal would likely be in the same place for each distance on the sign. Thus:

2.65
.50
.10

That, too, would be unlikely--especially considering Paleville is much farther than one-tenth of a mile away.

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And even then, there still isn't a decimal there anywhere.


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Silent Hill breaks many rules. Couldn't it just be that the rules of distance do not apply there?

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"The next town over" implies the next large, or important, town nearest Silent Hill. For example: Topeka, Kansas is "the next town over" to Lawrence--at, hey, lookit that!: round 25 miles apart.

Seriously. Just check James' travel-distance upon completing the game.


I like this idea. I dunno how Maine is, but here in Virginia, there really aren't many 'towns', per se. Most small towns and villages here aren't officially incorporated and don't have their own names, therefore, when you travel on main roads, most of the distance markers are for certain streets. The 'next town over' even here can be 20+ miles apart. People who live twenty miles away from Richmond have Richmond, VA mailing addresses.

But, in Pennsylvania, there are many more incorporated towns, and you're constantly seeing municipal limit signs when you drive through. For instance, when I go home to Wilkes-Barre, and I travel around town seeing what relatives I have left there, I can pass through more than a dozen little townships going from one end of the area to the next. Urban limits are much more rigid in Pennsylvania.

So, I think Silent Hill's locale is probably a lot more like Virginia in nature than Pennsylvania, which would easily explain the distance.

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>because maybe it's the closest town to SH
That's just impossible. The state of Iowa is about 250 miles, east-to-west. To say that there are absolutely no cities between Silent Hill and anywhere else for 265 miles is outrageous.

Besides: Ashfield is only six hours away.




Maybe I missed something? How was did you come to the conclusion that Silent Hill is in Iowa? I'm not questioning your judgement, but if you could just clear it up.

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I think he's using Iowa as a reference for size, not an implication that Silent Hill is located there.

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How big is Silent Hill anyway? Population? (I could've sworn it was mentioned somewhere in the game.)

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