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Seal of Metatron in SH2 (Spoilers)

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by StinkBomber
During the last Pyramid Head battle, the Seal looks burnt into the carpet on which you fight. Several of them.

Am I just seeing things? The seals aren't exactly bold, they're weathered with time and faded.

Wonder what kind of meaning, if any, these might have being in a place like that.

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by Burning Man
Personally, I think it's just a homage to the first game. It's there because the Lakeview Hotel resides in northern Silent Hill, where the first game took place and faded because it's been some time since then. It's there to remind you that James is on the "otherside."

Some people will tell you otherwise. Tying its existence to Pyramid Head seems a pretty popular idea.

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by SAQOA
I belive it appears because of a connection, with James and to the being behind the PH helmet. I dident say it's name. The angel the prison executioners based their outfit's on.

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by NightFlutter
I wouldn't really call
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Valtiel
an angel...

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by Hjartu
NightFlutter wrote:I wouldn't really call
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Valtiel
an angel...
He is, though.
Besides, the word 'angel' doesn't apply just to positive forces.

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by NightFlutter
I guess it depends on which sect of The Order you come from. He's like Jesus...if your from his sect (like Christianity), you think he's god...but if you're not (Judeaism/Islam)...you believe he's a major part, but not exactly god.

Posted: 20 Feb 2006
by Mis Krist.
^ Huh?

Well.. the -iel at the end kind of makes Valtiel seem like an angel, eh? And I'm not pulling that out of nowhere, I think it was mentioned in "Translated Memories" or something..

Did the executioners base their wardrobe on anything? I know they had bag-like things on their heads and bodies, but I don't know if they based it off of anything.

I think Burning Man's idea is interesting, and a nice explanation for it. I've always wondered why it's there, too. I'm not too sure about the Valtiel thing though.

Posted: 14 Dec 2006
by silenced angel
I like to think that they mean that (just like Midwich school, Alchemilla hospital, the lighthouse and other places) Alessa sealed up the hotel into the darkness before...
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her death at the end of Silent Hill

Posted: 14 Dec 2006
by alone in the town
That's not it, though.

Posted: 14 Dec 2006
by Krysta
I don't think that Seal in SH2 has something in common with Alessa nor Valtiel. Pyramid inside of the Seal suggest it has connection with the 2 PHs scene which takes place, nothing SH1&3 related

Posted: 14 Dec 2006
by alone in the town
I think it's not much more than a nod to the first game, considering all that we know.

Posted: 14 Dec 2006
by IzaHova
It could be a symbolic refference to James mental state deteriorating adn by teh time this battle occurs he's so far gone that teh seals are even diminished.

Posted: 15 Dec 2006
by Numboy
Does somebody have a screenshot of this.???

Posted: 25 Dec 2006
by whiter4bbit
> Does somebody have a screenshot of this.???

Behind James:
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Image

Posted: 25 Dec 2006
by Krysta
Numboy wrote:Does somebody have a screenshot of this.???
thats really lame one...here, these are best I could come up with

in-game > http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2052 ... 278ql7.jpg

and ripped with texture explorer > http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3748 ... 001jt2.jpg

Posted: 27 Dec 2006
by Numboy
^^theyre good. didnt notice the marks though.

I have a theory, a bad one, but wtf...

-In SH1 when the Mark of samael is "completed", Valitel appears (I guess :roll:) maybe this two marks are like some spell like the SH1 one...

Posted: 08 Mar 2007
by Anonymous
I believe the seal of metatron is there to justify pyramid head :twisted: in fact i know soo

Posted: 08 Mar 2007
by The Adversary
>in fact i know soo
No, I don't think you do.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007
by Anonymous
Well then could you give me a refresh on what the exactly the seal of metatron justifies and means ? :shock:

Posted: 08 Mar 2007
by AdjectiveRyan
what I don't understand is there is the seal of metratron and the seal of metatron...is there a difference betwixt the two? and if there is a link to another thread that discusses this, please givey.