What would've happened to Angela if

Post by **swedish** » 31 Jul 2006

James didn't come to rescue her in time from the Abstract Daddy (or in Angela's POV, her dad)?

Would she have been... raped right there again?

Post by **.-Ape-Demon-.** » 31 Jul 2006

It's possible...also posible it could have just been 'standing' there threateningly. After all, it's very apperance was sugestive as to what Angelea experenced (and what James wanted from Mary incidently) that it might have simply been enough to wiggle around in front of her.

But who knows. There could be a million possible outcomes.

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 31 Jul 2006

Why ask when no one can say for certain? Chances are she probably would have died. That monster wasn't her REAL father. Just perceived, by her, to be her father.

Post by **swedish** » 31 Jul 2006

But she wasn't seeing the Abstract Daddy monster, but her "real" dad right?

Post by **amphreded** » 31 Jul 2006

But that doesn't mean the monster sees Angela as his daughter. If the monster attacks everyone like it does to James, then Angela should have been killed.

Post by **ValtielInvoked** » 31 Jul 2006

I thought only James and Eddie witnessed monsters...So what if that Abstract Daddy Angela was interacting with only appeared to James as a monster...What if it was something else entirely in actual reality,outside of the delusions of the Other World? Like what if Laura saw it? She probaly wouldn't see a monster,or Angela's father,most likely she wouldn't see anything at all.
There's so many aspects to how things are perceived by each character in the game that it's hard to explain.
If it was a monster behind the disguise of Angela's father then I'm guessing it would of killed her if Jame's hadn't arrived.

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 31 Jul 2006

Laura doesn't see monsters, so... she'd see nothing.

Post by **Angelirium** » 01 Aug 2006

Actually, even if Angela see her father even if james see a monster, I'm not sur that it would kill her because Maria is a monster in a sort of way. Look at the intro fmv of the game. We clearly see the door of an elevator in the other world with the body of a lying figure... remind you of something ? I believe those creatures act like the mind believe it would react, at least, give an influence.

Post by **Jo269976** » 01 Aug 2006

I believe it would have killed her, Angela see's things differently, like she believed James was her mother for a minute.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 02 Aug 2006

Abstract Daddy is there to punish Angela. It could kill her, but she wouldn't be punished enough. She'd still be in that same mindset as she was when she came to Silent Hill. She cannot truly die unless she gets over her personal problems, or accepts death and punishment. But that's what the fire scene was for, so I think Abstract Daddy, being her perception of her father, would just rape her.

And before you guys get over me on Eddie's case, it's generally accepted, from what I've seen, that Eddie's death was to help James along to his epiphany as a step to make him realize what he did. Eddie might've been ressurected a la Harry in the beginning of SH1.

Post by **Beast in your Nightmares** » 02 Aug 2006

she would be sadomized by a bag of flesh attached to a door with very puckerd lips!

Post by **swedish** » 02 Aug 2006

AuraTwilight wrote:Eddie might've been ressurected a la Harry in the beginning of SH1.

I'd really like to hear more on this theory. Care to explain?

Post by **The Adversary** » 02 Aug 2006

>It could kill her, but she wouldn't be punished enough. She'd still be in that same mindset as she was when she came to Silent Hill.

No, I'm pretty sure she'd be dead...

Post by **Squarehead** » 02 Aug 2006

I can't believe they would just kill her off. If the monsters were trying to kill her i don't see how she could make it as far as that burning stairway. Unless, if they only summoned abstract daddy becouse they knew that James would succeed in killing it before it could hurt Angela? Anyway, i don't think she would just let herself get away that easily.

Post by **Watchdog** » 02 Aug 2006

Angela most likely avoided contact with the monsters because she will have believed that she was simply being chased by her father.

I don't believe she would have been raped in the Labyrinth. The Abstract Daddy would have probably just killed her - or, she may have even died of fright, judging by her catatonia during James' fight.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 02 Aug 2006

I'd really like to hear more on this theory. Care to explain?

For the bulk of it, look below. We know Silent Hill has the power to poof people back to life, and in SH2 the town is trying to, in it's own sick and twisted and horribly vile way, help the three protagonists and whoever else it judges (like Walter.)

>It could kill her, but she wouldn't be punished enough. She'd still be in that same mindset as she was when she came to Silent Hill.

No, I'm pretty sure she'd be dead...

Possibly, but I'm a believer in the town being a sort of device for self development and coping with your own issues (even if it does it in the most horrible way imaginable) instead of some hackneyed horror villain. And since the monster is supposed to represent her father, it would probably just rape her again, to emphasize her personal issues the same way Pyramid head kept killing Maria.

I don't think people can die in Silent Hill until they accept death/punishment or reconcile with themselves.

Post by **Angelirium** » 02 Aug 2006

Actually, if you look at Angela and Eddie, both of them died only when they actually face their nightmare. When Eddie accept the fact that he was actually a murderer, he faced James and that's what killed him. Same thing for Angela, she finally kill herself. The town didn't killed them but push them to kill themself or be killed. Same thing goes for james... depending of the ending, he killed himself (Water), continue to denied the truth (Maria), Accept the fact (Leave) or couldn't accept it and tried to resurrect Mary (Rebirth). But in all of them, understanding is the key and he only decided after that what to do with his own life. I believe that in Silent Hill 2 the town hasn't any real effect on somebody, physically only, but tried to gain power by feeding on people inner fear. In SH1 and SH3, that's another story. Of course, we can be kill by monsters and stuff like that, but this is part of the gameplay

and represented what is inside of james' mind, base on the fact that he really want to be punish also.

Post by **The Adversary** » 02 Aug 2006

>Possibly, but I'm a believer in the town being a sort of device for self development
But if you look at what you said--It could kill her, but she wouldn't be punished enough. She'd still be in that same mindset as she was when she came to Silent Hill.--then she couldn't be in the "same mindset" because she'd be dead, having been killed.

>I don't think people can die in Silent Hill until they accept death/punishment or reconcile with themselves.
Try standing 'round when the red pyramid thing attacks you. You'll die.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 02 Aug 2006

>Try standing 'round when the red pyramid thing attacks you. You'll die.

"Would you like to try again? >Yes No"

>But if you look at what you said--It could kill her, but she wouldn't be punished enough. She'd still be in that same mindset as she was when she came to Silent Hill.--then she couldn't be in the "same mindset" because she'd be dead, having been killed.

Well, her ghost or...something. The whole dying and coming back thing is just an idea I spurned. Don't quote me on it. But my opinion stands that I think Angela would've just been raped.

Post by **Angelirium** » 02 Aug 2006

I support the idea of AuraTwilight since the main gold if I was the spirit of Silent Hill would be to torture my prisonners to a maximum and, for Angela, that would be the worst thing that could happen I guess. As I said earlier, I think that the town is gaining power by feeding on people darkest mind, so no need to kill Angela before she reach the deeper part of her soul...