We have it here in the Netherlands! But then again, pretty much everything is legal here.

I'm setting up my girlfriend to play SH2. She hasn't got a clue, never played any SH-game, so I'm looking forward to her reaction!

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And that can lead to disaster as well: the Nazis started with the elderly, infirm, and mentally handicapped.

*Sigh* --- as the Oracle said, it is a pickle, no doubt about it.

It was pretty good but Soul Reaver 2 and Legacy of Kain Defiance also had some seriously nice plot twists.

Also to the other poster MGS2 had A LOT to do with love and relationships if you know where to look.

I remember I got up to the hotel, I was like "wow maybe she's here". Then a friend of mine who played the game previously was like, "dude you won't believe it, he actually killed the wife". I got pretty pissed off, that's probably why when I finally saw the scene it just didn't have the power it would have had if it wasn't spoiled for me.

I was blown away ! I was not expecting that to happen definitely one of the best plot twists ever in my opinion . In a way i felt bad for James considering the journey he went through just to find out the truth. Although his journey through silent hill was pretty much him paying up for it.

One of the best twists i ever saw. When i first watched it unspoiled all i could do was sit there and go: 0.0.

People seem to forget James diden't kill his wafe to release here from her pain.He killed her because he was sick of looking at her and dealing with her.

That's what he says, but Mary disagrees. "Then James...why do you look so sad?"

Given that James was consumed in self-hatred, I'm not sure if his motive was as selfish as he made it out to be.

That also enforces my belief that the In water ending is the real one.


anyway back on topic and i do agree that there were many hints in the game having to do with said twist.




PS: your bible bashing was full of win Aura.^^

True, it was a really good plot twist. But I always got a strange feeling when he was talking about Mary. That he held some things back. Especially when James leaves the hospital and says something like: "Is this your way to..." That's when it got really fishy for me...

James did not hate Mary. He hated the disease that was consuming her. He killed her primarily to end her suffering, I am convinced of that. Had it been otherwise, he could have just abandoned her, gotten a quickie divorce, and found some slutty girl at a bar to score with.

the "real one"? How did you come to that conclusion?

It's not an original plot twist, but it was presented better than most. I was pretty floored the first time I saw it - and I couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks.

well if you found out you killed your wife because you hated her/the disease would YOU want to live??

If I understood that she was in horrific agony and already near death, and things were only going to get worse, and I acted to end her suffering and send her to a better place? I might agonize about whaether what I did was right, and I would miss her horribly, but I would try to move on with my life.

Well to each his own oddish.


Sh2 has still never been beaten by any of its sequels and one of the reasons is because of the said twist. its interesting to see that it caught many people off guard.

It sure knocked me for a loop.

I don't really know what I would do. But what I would do, and what James (a fictional chararter) would do are completley different things my friend.

lol fare enough.It is likely thats what i would do though.