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The path of the Hermmit concealed by Flauros.
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Author:  Video Gamer [ 07 Dec 2010 ]
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ww_andi wrote:
i feel i have learned alot about the flauros

but i still am a bit confused

So the flauros demon is simply a manifestation or is it a actual demon



I have a feeling that's up to you to decide. The cult's God sure is.

Author:  SHF [ 07 Dec 2010 ]
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The flauros demon is a mental projection from alessa's mind.
So its only real to alessa, and travis.

Author:  ww_andi [ 08 Dec 2010 ]
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are you sure tho i mean what gain is there from trapping a manifestation in the flauros
evidence seems to suggest that it is a real demon

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 08 Dec 2010 ]
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The same reason they're trying to manifest a manifestation of a deity.

1) They don't know any better, and 2) The manifestation can do shit with real consequences, so who gives a shit?

Author:  ww_andi [ 09 Dec 2010 ]
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so i am supposed to believe that the flauros demon is a manifestation

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 09 Dec 2010 ]
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Yea, possibly.

Author:  ww_andi [ 10 Dec 2010 ]
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well i think that since we already in the silent hill universe believe that there are psychics and obviously the supernatural but any sort of demon is a manifestation

i personally would like to believe that there was a flauros demon and a "god" of sorts and that the threat was a little more then simply a manifestation

Author:  SHF [ 10 Dec 2010 ]
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ww_andi wrote:
so i am supposed to believe that the flauros demon is a manifestation

Travis only sees it in his dream. ( he gets gassed before he has to fight the demon)
Thats the clue.

Author:  ww_andi [ 11 Dec 2010 ]
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that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 11 Dec 2010 ]
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No, but it pretty much outright proves there's no evidence of the Flauros actually existing, (regardless of whether or not it does). If you're willing to accept that everything else in the series is a manifestation, and yet has more outward reality than this Flauros demon (it appears in the dream, instead of just in the physical Otherworld), then you have to make a non-logical sort of special pleading for the Demon's real existence that has no basis in evidence or logic.

Author:  ww_andi [ 12 Dec 2010 ]
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okay so if it was simply a manifestation then why was it needed to make alessa split

Author:  stopped_clock [ 12 Dec 2010 ]
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The manifestations have real power thanks to the effects of Silent Hill's mystical properties on the combined belief of the cultists. Ergo, if the cultists believe strongly enough that the flauros is capable of splitting a soul then, at least within the area of the towns influence, it is.

(I think.)

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 12 Dec 2010 ]
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What Stopped Clock said. That, and it's sort of implied that the Flauros artifact has a part of Alessa's power sealed in it. She....kind of needs that back, y'know.

Author:  ww_andi [ 13 Dec 2010 ]
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i see well that makes more sense i suppose

but what about the "God" is that supposed to be a manifestation as well

i have always felt it was a demon of sorts and if it is simply a manifestation then it kinda renders the threat of 1 and 3 to nothing

Author:  KiramidHead [ 13 Dec 2010 ]
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Just because it's a manifestation doesn't diminish the threat. God isn't like Maria, it can be perceived by others. The cult believes God has power, it manifests with power.

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 13 Dec 2010 ]
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God is a manifestation too. It doesn't make it any less dangerous, because it's the God of the Otherworld once it's properly born. It's harmless to people in the real world, right? Because it can't enter there and such...

But what if it pulled all of humanity into the Otherworld, and that became our reality?

Author:  SilentWren [ 14 Dec 2010 ]
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AuraTwilight wrote:
But what if it pulled all of humanity into the Otherworld, and that became our reality?


The way Claudia was talking in the third game, I had assumed that this was the plan. It's the only way to bring "paradise" everywhere, isn't it?

(I tired to keep up with this conversation for a while and I got lost. This was the first line that I could contribute to so far. I need to play 0 more.)

Author:  ww_andi [ 14 Dec 2010 ]
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i suppose this changes some of my views of silent hill

i guess you learn something new

of course this is all subject to interpretation tho

Author:  mikefile [ 15 Dec 2010 ]
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The Flauros may be the manifestation of Alessa's vision of "a demon trapped in a cage",or Travis' or the cultists vision of God.. but it's always a manifestation.

Author:  SHF [ 18 Dec 2010 ]
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mikefile wrote:
The Flauros may be the manifestation of Alessa's vision of "a demon trapped in a cage",or Travis' or the cultists vision of God.. but it's always a manifestation.

perfectly said.
Its like if youre afraid of dogs, and you began seeing mosntrous dogs chasing you down the street, they are still real to you.
It makes it more personal rather than where everyone sees exactly what you do.

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