The Ring 2 reference?

Post by **LanceS133** » 31 Jan 2008

In the Ring 2, Samara's original mother was also in a sanitarium type establishment mainly because she was trying to kill/drown her daughter because she thought the child was evil or held evil inside of her, sound familiar? While playing the game I also thought Alessa's face resembled Samara, anyone else?

Post by **David01** » 31 Jan 2008

Yeah, come to think of it it did kinda resemble Samara's face. Especially toward the end when you have that spectacular FMV sequence after the Flarous puzzle.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 01 Feb 2008

It's way too much of a stretch. Silent Hill usually comes out and says it outright when it's referencing something from pop culture, literature, movies, etc. Besides, there's a difference. Samara's mother claimed that Samara was ASKING her to kill her; Travis's mom just wanted him dead out of frustration and annoyance, and she was committed to a sanitarium after the murder attempt. Plus, to wrap it all up, Travis's mom didn't try and drown him.

Post by **David01** » 01 Feb 2008

Nope, she tried to gas him and herself.

Post by **LanceS133** » 01 Feb 2008

fair enough, made me think of it anyway.

Post by **sidrawings** » 23 Feb 2008

AuraTwilight wrote:It's way too much of a stretch. Silent Hill usually comes out and says it outright when it's referencing something from pop culture, literature, movies, etc. Besides, there's a difference. Samara's mother claimed that Samara was ASKING her to kill her; Travis's mom just wanted him dead out of frustration and annoyance, and she was committed to a sanitarium after the murder attempt. Plus, to wrap it all up, Travis's mom didn't try and drown him.

I thought she tried to kill him because demons from the "mirror world" told her to kill her "devil child". That's what I remember her saying in one of the flash backs. So that's not to far of a stretch from a reference from Samara's mother. But then again, you're right about when silent hill makes a reference it really sticks out. Jacob's latter and Silent Hill 2, Session 9 and Silent Hill 3. Those both stood out. If this is a reference to The Ring, it's doesn't scream it.

Post by **crucifix** » 23 Feb 2008

sidrawings wrote:If this is a reference to The Ring, it's doesn't scream it.

yeah, good thing it isn't.

Post by **LanceS133** » 23 Feb 2008

Ehh, I guess I really wasn't trying to say they used the Ring2 as an actual reference, I was moreso just saying it reminded me of the Ring2's plot.

Post by **cultistofvertigo** » 03 Mar 2008

um... I dont remember anyone drowning someone else in ring 2. Ring 2 was about Sadako's residual energy... or something... slipping into Tomoko and Yoichi. Neither of their mothers tried to drown them. If anything, Yoichi's mom got run over by a truck and the girlfriend from... was it Mai? the girlfriend took over and they went to the inn and the old guy drowned and the scientist drowned and the girlfriend used her super powers to pull yoichi out of the well and then sadako was all like "why him?" and stuff....

yeah, what movie are you talking about?

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 04 Mar 2008

um... I dont remember anyone drowning someone else in ring 2. Ring 2 was about Sadako's residual energy... or something... slipping into Tomoko and Yoichi. Neither of their mothers tried to drown them. If anything, Yoichi's mom got run over by a truck and the girlfriend from... was it Mai? the girlfriend took over and they went to the inn and the old guy drowned and the scientist drowned and the girlfriend used her super powers to pull yoichi out of the well and then sadako was all like "why him?" and stuff....

yeah, what movie are you talking about?

They're talking about the American version.

Post by **Video Gamer** » 06 Mar 2008

There's two versions of the "Ring" movies...The American ones, and the Japanese ones.
In America, the Japanese movies are usually called "Ringu" and "Ringu 2" for some reason. The American-made adaptations are just called "The Ring" and "The Ring Two."

For me, Alessa has always reminded me of Samara. (I saw The Ring before I played any Silent Hill game, so...) I mean, she has psychic powers, her motives are in question, and she kills people, obviously. Whenever she appears, I get the same feeling I got when I watched "The Ring."

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 06 Mar 2008

There's a Korean version too, actually. And yes, I would put Samara and Alessa in the same category, and I'd probably include Sadako from 0: Birthday, too.

I really wish Wikipedia had a "Fictional Creepy Psychic Girls" category or something.

Post by **LanceS133** » 06 Mar 2008

^You could add characters from the Grudge to that list as well....they all look the same to me.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 06 Mar 2008

I wasn't judging from the "Yurei" hair thing, I mean the idea in general of psychic little-to-teenage girls with psychic powers (possibly brought on by puberty).

A bunch of ghosts don't really fit.

Post by **Video Gamer** » 07 Mar 2008

Add Carrie from...Well, Carrie, to the list.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 07 Mar 2008

Already ahead of you.

My list consists of:
Sadako Yamamura from Ringu Cycle
Samara Morgan from The Ring
Park Eun-Suh from Ring Virus
Alessa/Cheryl/Sharon/Heather from If I should have to tell you get off the forum.
Alma Wade from F.E.A.R.
Carrie White from Carrie
Jun/Yuki Kanzato from Persona -Trinity Soul-
Mai Kawasumi from Kanon
Rei Ayanami from Neon Genesis Evangelion
Raven from DC Comics
Jean Grey from Marvel Comics
Wanda Maximoff from Marvel Comics
Layla Miller from Marvel Comics
Haruhi Suzumiya (Contestable since she's classified as "God" in an esoteric manner)
Mai Taniyama from Ghost Hunt
Rachel Lang from Carrie 2
Charlene McGee from Firestarter
Saki Hanajima from Fruits Basket

*phew*

My current list so far, open to further additions.

Post by **Seal of Megatron** » 07 Mar 2008

It may be in the list above, but there's that little girl in the game Fear. Also the Project Zero/Fatal frame games are littered with the little brats. Anime is riddled with them as well.
Something's got to be done!

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 07 Mar 2008

LanceS133 wrote:Ehh, I guess I really wasn't trying to say they used the Ring2 as an actual reference, I was moreso just saying it reminded me of the Ring2's plot.

Yes you were, you put reference in the title

I kid, I kid.

From what I can remember of this game nothing really reminded me or brought to mind anything else in particular... besides Angel Heart, actually. But that's another story for another time.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 07 Mar 2008

Seal of Megatron wrote:It may be in the list above, but there's that little girl in the game Fear. Also the Project Zero/Fatal frame games are littered with the little brats. Anime is riddled with them as well.
Something's got to be done!

We've already gone over that ghosts don't count unless they were significantly psychic in life. and yes, the girl from Fear was covered, "Alma Wade."

I guess I should add where they're all from. I'll do that.

Post by **Video Gamer** » 08 Mar 2008

AuraTwilight wrote:Already ahead of you.

My list consists of:
Sadako Yamamura from Ringu Cycle
Samara Morgan from The Ring
Park Eun-Suh from Ring Virus
Alessa/Cheryl/Sharon/Heather from If I should have to tell you get off the forum.
Alma Wade from F.E.A.R.
Carrie White from Carrie
Jun/Yuki Kanzato from Persona -Trinity Soul-
Mai Kawasumi from Kanon
Rei Ayanami from Neon Genesis Evangelion
Raven from DC Comics
Jean Grey from Marvel Comics
Wanda Maximoff from Marvel Comics
Layla Miller from Marvel Comics
Haruhi Suzumiya (Contestable since she's classified as "God" in an esoteric manner)
Mai Taniyama from Ghost Hunt
Rachel Lang from Carrie 2
Charlene McGee from Firestarter
Saki Hanajima from Fruits Basket

*phew*

My current list so far, open to further additions.

Nice list. o.o