...A nod to SH0 in SH3? *possible, and probable, spoilers*

[Video Gamer]

Hey all.
I'm playing SH3 at the moment, and I'm in the "Mall Toilet." I just examined the mirror next to the save point, and Heather just said "I don't like mirrors. It's almost like there's an unknown world right on the other side. And the person staring at me isn't really me, just an imitator. I know how stupid that sounds, but that's how I feel. But if I keep thinking about it, it just makes me feel sick." Also note that the savepoint makes her feel sick as well.
Travis travels through mirrors to get to the Otherworld, and it has been argued that the Butcher is Travis' Doppleganger.
Discuss.

[dr bones]

i think that, in the context of SH3, what heather said about someone staring back in a mirror that isn't her, was actually foreshadowing for the whole alessa/cheryl revelation which happens later on.

there's also the "mirror world" in the room with the bleeding bathtub. if anything, i bet that those were more inspirations for Origins, considering SH:0 came out after SH3 and was crafted by different developers.

[Rob Matter]

Indeed, the room in Brookhaven with the bathtub explicates SH3’s tying together mirrors with the Otherworld. Since SH0 followed years later, I think it would be more accurate to say that SH0 expanded greatly upon a concept that was only briefly touched upon in SH3.

Certainly an argument against those who claim that SH0 deviates from the series.

[jdnation]

I wouldn't be surprised if it does tie together! Subtle hints and things and articles in previous games have been used to build entirely new ones! So 0rigins carries on that tradition! Nice!

[Video Gamer]

=3
I did good?

(And I know SH3 came before SH0, I'm just saying, it's a little strange to have it specifically mention another world behind the mirrors, when that was SH0's entire gimmick.)

[Yana]

I always figured, after playing Origins that it was nod or some kind of hint to it. They could have easily had it planned/been working on it back then. I do love little stuff like this in the series. ^_^

[Mis Krist.]

A resounding "no duh" is coming from my end of the screen, but it still is a good observation! Yay.

[Jonipoon]

I strongly doubt Konami actually knew that a quite unknown, small american video-game group would 'take over the series' four years later.
It is metaphysically impossible, so I'd go along Krist with the "no duh".

[simeonalo]

This is very interesting, it could of served as the inspiration of the mirror-like otherworld in Origins.

[SHF]

it seems that alesssa has an uncomfortable feeling about mirrors. Though, in SHO, she shows travis to use them to traverse...lit seems alessa musta known about travis mother, and her ravings about the mirror world, and uses that as a way to further the journey

[simeonalo]

Yes, but I don't think Helen even traveled to the Otherworld. Maybe to the Otherside, but not the Otherworld. She was simply C-R-A-Z-Y.

[Yuki]

Yes, but I don't think Helen even traveled to the Otherworld. Maybe to the Otherside, but not the Otherworld. She was simply C-R-A-Z-Y.

I second this. We're told that she goes into a catatonic state, and as far as we know, every other character physically enters the Otherworld.

[carneeval]

SH3 came out in 2003 and SH0 came out in 2008, games were still being produced by Team Silent during 3 and 4 so they hadn't given the game rights up yet.

[AuraTwilight]

We know, Carneeval.

As for Alessa knowing about the mirror world, she probably got that information by reading Travis's mind. So yea.

[simeonalo]

Origins was released in 2007 initially for the PSP, the PS2 versions were released the next year.

[Cyrus]

Similar much? XD

http://www.silenthillforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17868

[simeonalo]

I totally love how realistic your avatar is, Cyrus. That Valtiel-Pipe thing is sort of sexy.

[Aldo]

It is a pretty cool avatar

[valiturus]

That's definitely interesting, but seeing how Silent Hill 3 was made before Origins, there could be no plausible way that the two were connected. It is neat how they connect with each other in that way though, especially because of the impossibility of it being canon.

[AuraTwilight]

...uh...it is canon.

And get this: Silent Hill 0 is able to take things from SH3 and make connections and allusions to it.