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The Adversary
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003 Notes left: 19446 Last seen at: #lfk
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Anyone can write and edit the entries on the Silent Hill Wiki. The drug isn't even called White Claudia. It's called PTV.
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Aerith Gainsborough
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 05 Jul 2010 Notes left: 3339 Last seen at: Kentucky
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^ Right. PTV is made from WC. It's not the same thing, though.
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Miette
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 19 Nov 2010 Notes left: 117
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Okay, but he obviously used the fact that he had a steady supply of the drug in order to gain power over people: Lisa. Either way, he used people, therefore is not a good person.
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Aerith Gainsborough
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 05 Jul 2010 Notes left: 3339 Last seen at: Kentucky
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Nobody said he was a good person...? I clearly said he was evil in both the original Silent Hill 1 and Silent Hill Origins.
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MariaRising
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The only two words that come to my mind to describe him in Origins are sinister and nerdy.
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The Adversary
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003 Notes left: 19446 Last seen at: #lfk
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>Right. PTV is made from WC. It's not the same thing, though.< My point was that anyone can edit anything on the Silent Hill wiki, however incorrect it is. The evidence Miette used was then invalid because in that very same bit of evidence it was false.
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Aerith Gainsborough
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 05 Jul 2010 Notes left: 3339 Last seen at: Kentucky
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^I hope you didn't take that wrongly, Tom. I was only agreeing with you.
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The Adversary
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003 Notes left: 19446 Last seen at: #lfk
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Oh, I know. I was clarifying for Miette.
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Doctor Eggnog
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 22 Aug 2010 Notes left: 1587
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Am I the only one who didn't find the music before meeting Kaufman in Origins creepy and evil. Maybe I'm emo but it sounded pleasant to me. Maybe music sounds different to different people just like food tastes different.
Anyway, Kaufman's evil in Origins may have been generic, but not overdone I don't think. He was still understated. Just generic.
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Aerith Gainsborough
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 05 Jul 2010 Notes left: 3339 Last seen at: Kentucky
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I thought the music just sounding like casual, walking around music. Nothing really sinister about it.
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MariaRising
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Missing since: 07 Mar 2007 Notes left: 541 Last seen at: South Carolina, USA
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I also thought the music in that part was pretty laid-back, no evil-ness or creepiness there. As much as I don't like this game, I've always thought the music for it was pretty good lol 
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KiramidHead
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Doctor Eggnog
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 22 Aug 2010 Notes left: 1587
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I thought the soundtrack was better than SH4, and although the soundtrack wasn't nearly as good as the one for SH3, I thought that the music was better used in-game than SH3. Most of the time, the music was used in a very appropriate and well done way, and was a major reason for the game being scarier than SH4 for me.
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Kompwars
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 08 Mar 2011 Notes left: 49
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hmm i heard that in SH0 Kaufmann Killed Lisa by drugging her. it just didn't show her death cuz it wasn't a instant kill or something. But idk, its a theory. thats why in Sh1 Lisa said she was dead all along
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Aerith Gainsborough
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 05 Jul 2010 Notes left: 3339 Last seen at: Kentucky
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Kaufmann never 'drugged' her, though. She became an addict and wanted the supply. She could have stopped at anytime, but her addiction was very strong. The whole reason why she stays at Alchemilla is because Kaufmann threatened to stop her supply of drugs if she didn't stay. Taking care of Alessa was messing with her emotionally and psychologically, which caused her addiction to grow even greater. Lisa hadn't realized she was dead. When she finally realized it, she then 'transformed.'
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mikefile
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 05 Aug 2010 Notes left: 567 Last seen at: Nathan Ave.
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Kompwars wrote: (...) thats why in Sh1 Lisa said she was dead all along. That's not why she said it.
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Trauma_
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 09 Jun 2010 Notes left: 494
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Aerith Gainsborough wrote: Lisa hadn't realized she was dead. When she finally realized it, she then 'transformed.' ..wat? She seemed alive and well in Origins. At that point in time all of the characters including Dahlia, Kaufmann, Travis, Harry, James, Robby The Rabbit...ect, and yes- even Lisa were alive, I haven't seen a single shred of evidence to support that she was dead at the time, so I don't know where you're getting that idea from... A lot can happen in 7 years so it's not like she had to die/get sealed to the Otherworld (if you go by the theory of the Virun VII was implanted on her) right away for all the events to be set in motion, she doesn't say a thing about even remembering how long she's been stuck there, so hell, it could have happened as soon as Harry stepped into town for all we know... By the time Lisa started transforming the Otherworld and Nowhere were already starting to disintegrate anyways...
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Ryantology
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 15 Apr 2004 Notes left: 11059 Last seen at: In the anals of forum history
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Lisa never 'realized she was dead'. Mostly because she wasn't dead.
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Trauma_
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Post subject: Re: Kaufmann, Out of Character |
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Missing since: 09 Jun 2010 Notes left: 494
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Besides, I know this is an old topic but I'm not surprised in the least that the characters acted differently than their counterparts in 0.
It's 7 fucking years between both games, and people who act the exact same and have the same mannerisms after that amount of time are usually thought to have some sort of neurological disorder. You can't honestly tell me most people don't change in that amount of time.
It's just as likely that Kaufman decided "fuck this shit, I'm tired of pretending" as soon as he meets Harry and that amount of time in the Otherworld would make me crotchety and pissy too... It's not that hard to believe that Kaufman just got tired of playing Dahlias game and became bitter because of it...
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