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Just Passing Through
 Post subject: Cheryl is Heather?

Missing since: 30 Apr 2009
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Just wondering whether Cheryl in the game is Heather in Silent Hill 3?


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No, she's not. This is an alternate universe.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 07 Apr 2009
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Evidently not. It may be that it's an alternate universe... although the ending leaves it quite open to a sequel and it seemed to stress that much more needs to be revealed about Cheryl. But it certainly seems as if that isn't possible... or that the other games in the series all 'occurred in her head'.

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Missing since: 17 Sep 2009
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Nope,[spoiler] think of it more as if Cheryl actually got to grow up, instead of being "reincarnated" as Heather. As other have said, "alternate universe".
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Heather's father was murdered. Cheryl Mason's father died in a car accident. They're not the same, it's impossible.

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indubitably it is impossible maybe you should try playing the game again

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The fact that her mother is still there is one.
The fact that the Harry here died in a car accident and not at home in SH3 is another.
This is not the same Cheryl/Heather.

One COULD argue that this is another person named Cheryl that also happened to have a father named Harry and a mother named Dahlia.

And that this Cheryl could have actually visited, or was/is a resident of the real canonical Silent Hill and the town may have affected her in some way, or on some mysterious cosmic level, given life to the Harry and the town within her mind...

But other than that, they are definately not the same people.


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No, not the same.
In SH1, Dahlia isn't married to Harry. This isn't canon to SH1. In Shattered Memories, you should treat Cheryl as just who she is portrayed as.

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Just Passing Through
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Couldn't it be that the SH3 Heather is what Cheryl would have turned out to be had Harry not died in the car accident in SM?


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soam108 wrote:
Couldn't it be that the SH3 Heather is what Cheryl would have turned out to be had Harry not died in the car accident in SM?


Possibly, but I don't think it's meant to be seen that way. I was confused at first, too but it's a completely different canon.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 04 Jun 2009
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I don't think so. Cheryl was 7. If Harry died in the car crash. SH3- Speaking:Cheryl would be VERY vulnerable to The Order. Then there would be no SH3. SM-speaking: There would be no reason for Heather to go SH3-ish since there is no order.


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Missing since: 29 May 2009
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Cheryl =/= Heather by any means. Even with that theory that says that Shattered Memories is canon to SH1's bad ending.


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 08 Aug 2006
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kkyler wrote:
Just wondering whether Cheryl in the game is Heather in Silent Hill 3?



I totally get your question, and I thought so too.. because on the computer in the High School, Cheryl's full name is

"Cheryl Heather Mason"

That kinda sealed the deal for me.

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ComaWhite wrote:
kkyler wrote:
Just wondering whether Cheryl in the game is Heather in Silent Hill 3?



I totally get your question, and I thought so too.. because on the computer in the High School, Cheryl's full name is

"Cheryl Heather Mason"

That kinda sealed the deal for me.


Because the developers couldn't have just given her that middle name as a shout out or for fun?

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Just Passing Through
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Cascade, I suppose I give the game more credit than it's due.. I play the game with the idea that if something is obviously pointed out, it must mean something puzzle wise. I suppose I should view these things as "hey, developers having fun, means nothing at all". That would change the way I view the entire game.. THANKS!!!

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Still, that doesn't mean that Cheryl and SH3 Heather are the same. For one thing, "Heather" was a code name to hide from the Order, not her middle name. It's just a reference, like how the Balkan Church became the Balkan Night Club.

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^Exactly

I believe Climax has stated that Shattered Memories is a separate story and is in no way meant to be included in the classic franchise. Meaning there is no correlation between the events of SM and the original storyline. This isn't a "remake" it's a "re-imagining", new and different.

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ShadowBaby wrote:
^Exactly

I believe Climax has stated that Shattered Memories is a separate story and is in no way meant to be included in the classic franchise. Meaning there is no correlation between the events of SM and the original storyline. This isn't a "remake" it's a "re-imagining", new and different.


They have, but then they backpedaled, presumably when they realized it would piss fans off. Unfortunately, anything they say WILL piss fans off.

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They are the same in that they are supposed to be Cheryl, but they are different in that they are in alternative universes. If that makes any sense.

Its like this is Climax's version of Cheryl. And the older Heather (Cheryl) was Team Silent's version.

Think of it like another you in an alternative dimension.

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Missing since: 27 Jul 2009
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Maybe Cheryl IS Heather: I see it as this

[spoiler]Harry Dies in the accident, Cheryl survives

Since Cheryl is probably not in custody with the mom, she goes to an adoption home

~troubled life~

Her real mother takes her to Dr. K under approval of her foster mother

SM Ending[/spoiler]


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