Underwater Car Significance? (spoilers, duh)

Ten years after the original game and Harry's still searching for his daughter.

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Underwater Car Significance? (spoilers, duh)

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I just thought of this,

Could the underwater car scene mean something more? I was thinking it symbolized Cheryl, especially the writing on the windows. Things like, "Stop fighting it" or something could represent her not facing
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Harry's death.
Also with the "It will be over soon" representing her psycology meetings with Dr. K, and the "So cold" could go with her being alone in her mind. And then comes the whole scene: the drowning. She was possibly "drowning" in her life, then surfaced after accepting
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again, Harry's death
Sorry if I was hard to understand, thoughts?
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I think it's definitely an interesting interpretation... though I took it to refer to Harry's "death" if he drowns, because at that point you're supposed to still think you're Harry himself rather than playing as Cheryl in a delusion.
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You know, I did wonder at first whether or not making it out of the car affected which ending you got. In other words, if you knew what to do but just didn't, would it give Harry "weak" points for not being more of a survivalist or something.

I no longer find this to be the case though, after trying to let him drown on purpose. I'm not kidding, it took ages for him to drown. It was obvious that the game gave you some leeway and time to try and figure it out before just offing you. So yeah.

Anyway, I agree with pretty much everything in the first post, as well. I got those vibes, too.
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Oh, so it is actually possible to drown in that scene? I took a long time trying to get out (didn't see the flashlight for a while for some reason), and judging by how the water didn't rise after it reached almost the bottom of the window, I didn't think it went up anymore. I was kind of disappointed by the lack of realism there, but for some reason the fact that you can drown, despite the fact that it takes so long, makes me feel a bit better about it.

Having more to do with the questions you're asking:
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After reading through some of the other topics in this form, I've taken to believe that those messages do have a lot to do with Cheryl's subconscious trying to get Harry to give up, similar to the way the Raw Shocks are (presumably) manifestations of her subconscious, trying to prevent Harry/Cheryl from realizing the truth about him and his death.
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judging by how the water didn't rise after it reached almost the bottom of the window, I didn't think it went up anymore. I was kind of disappointed by the lack of realism there
....Er...that's how it works in real life. Cars don't fill up THAT fast, because there's nowhere for the air to escape.
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I took it all to represent denial--that is, succumbing to the delusion that Harry is still alive. Notice that this scene takes place just before Cheryl's revelation.
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Catch22 wrote:I took it all to represent denial--that is, succumbing to the delusion that Harry is still alive. Notice that this scene takes place just before Cheryl's revelation.
I wouldn't exactly say just before Cheryl's revelation; this is about halfway through the game. We still have the Hospital, House, and Boat chases before we reach the realization that Harry is not Harry.
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lol cascade i know what you mean. for me i drowning so quickly i couldn't figure it out but with my friend it sat there and seemed to literally stop and let him figure it so maybe
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My guess that its actually the 'old' and real Dahlia looking back at her past, after dropping off Cheryl at the Lighthouse. She has a breakdown, after thinking of her deceased husband.

(By breakdown, I mean sobbing a looooot)

....Course, that has NOTHING to do with Cheryl's delusion. But it is an interesting theory.
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Wait, you mean you think that Old Dahlia is Real Dahlia's manifestation? Interesting.
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Yuki wrote:
Catch22 wrote:I took it all to represent denial--that is, succumbing to the delusion that Harry is still alive. Notice that this scene takes place just before Cheryl's revelation.
I wouldn't exactly say just before Cheryl's revelation; this is about halfway through the game. We still have the Hospital, House, and Boat chases before we reach the realization that Harry is not Harry.
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AuraTwilight wrote:Wait, you mean you think that Old Dahlia is Real Dahlia's manifestation? Interesting.
Interesting. But, how would that fit in with the whole game being in Cheryl's mind?
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I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
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Post by JamesisBetterThanHarry22 »

I was expecting James Sunderlands' car to pop up during that scene.
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That would've been a fucking awesome reference.
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AuraTwilight wrote:I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
It's possible that could lend more support to the supernatural!Silent Hill theory. Remember how some of Angela's stuff was in James' nightmare?

Though I'm still inclined to think she's the monstrosity of Dahlia rather than real!Dahlia's manifestation. Otherwise the lines about "Your mother isn't a monster" make little sense.
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Ditto. And it also makes the resemblance between the two Dahlias pretty random.
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