"Abnormal Sexuality."

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"Abnormal Sexuality."

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I never really understood this. Dr Kauffman says that Cheryl has an "Abnormal Sexuality", yet we only know that she has slept with her teacher before, who was male. Does anyone have an explanation for this confusing statement? (Well, maybe just confusing for me xD)
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Don't worry, you're not the only one who doesn't understand this.
But considering that Cheryl slept with her teacher.. that doesn't seem normal.

So I might have answered that question for both of us.
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angelofROOM302 wrote:Don't worry, you're not the only one who doesn't understand this.
But considering that Cheryl slept with her teacher.. that doesn't seem normal.

So I might have answered that question for both of us.
LOL. :lol:
Thanks for clearing up I'm not the only one, That understands this statement, I mean :roll:
I still don't get it, I'm just dumb I guess xDD
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By Cheryl being "frigid", refusing to have sex--I believe that's what Dr. K meant regarding her abnormal sexuality.

"To deny sex is to deny sex."

Cheryl won't give in to have sex, so she's denying it, and therefore denying
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Cheryl's sleeping with her teacher is, I guess, her way of substituting for the lack of older male (father) attention in her life. Some girls really need a Daddy figure in their lives! :(

Ya gotta admit, if that's the gist of it her sexuality is pretty abnormal. "You remind me of my dad/I really miss my dad, let's jump into bed together!" :shock: Er...yeah.

Someone else on the forums mentioned an Electra complex, and I think that sums it up better. Can't remember which thread the post was in, though, or I'd point the way.

Awkwardness with regards to sexuality is a major theme in this series, wouldn't you say? The developers love to amp up the squicky factor what with all the symbolism or abnormal blatant-ness.
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There's also the possibility that Cheryl is "pigtails."

And if that's the case, that's some pretty abnormal sexuality right there.
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I felt it was pretty obvious that Cheryl is "pigtails", unless you want to invoke ESP or something.

Cheryl is frigid and refuses to have sex with any of her normal peers, like a boyfriend, but she keeps having sex with older men who remind her of her father. Basically, she's projecting a buttload of unsatisfied incestual inclinations.

"I love my Daddy" means more than you think.
[quote="BlackFire2"]I thought he meant the special powers of her vagina.[/quote]
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AuraTwilight wrote:I felt it was pretty obvious that Cheryl is "pigtails", unless you want to invoke ESP or something.

Cheryl is frigid and refuses to have sex with any of her normal peers, like a boyfriend, but she keeps having sex with older men who remind her of her father. Basically, she's projecting a buttload of unsatisfied incestual inclinations.

"I love my Daddy" means more than you think.
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AuraTwilight wrote:"I love my Daddy" means more than you think.
Way to ruin that for me. :P
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Not to mention that the existence of young Dahlia, and her presumably sexual relationship with Harry, is Cheryl projecting herself into the scenario as her father's lover.
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That's just wrong D:
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Post by angelofROOM302 »

What the hell does "Cheryl is pigtails" mean?
If we can not understand something so simple to you guys, well sheesh, you keep throwing in all these random meanings. LOL. :shock:

I'm understanding everything but the "to deny death is to deny sex" thing.
So glad to know that I was pretty much correct on one thing though! :mrgreen:
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A series of echo messages about a nameless girl referred to as "Pigtails" pop up when Harry reaches Midwich High. Her boyfriend is upset with her for not putting out in one message, then there's another in which a guy praises her for looking like the "most perfect schoolgirl ever" due to her pigtails.
There's also the echo photo you can snap in the brothel; it shows a girl sitting with her face in her hands, a pigtailed wig beside her. One of her clients went crazy on her when he saw that her hair was only a wig.
Cheryl is "Pigtails".
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^^
Oh, lol. I remember that!
I was thinking that pigtails was another form of the word "frigid" or something like that.
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AuraTwilight wrote:I felt it was pretty obvious that Cheryl is "pigtails", unless you want to invoke ESP or something.

Cheryl is frigid and refuses to have sex with any of her normal peers, like a boyfriend, but she keeps having sex with older men who remind her of her father. Basically, she's projecting a buttload of unsatisfied incestual inclinations.

"I love my Daddy" means more than you think.
I doubt she had any incestuous inclinations - just a textbook Electra complex. This could also explain the hostility toward her mother.
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Cheryl sleeping with her teacher and denying sex. Also looking at all the sexual items in the game, which ALL happen to be about women, even though Cheryl is a girl. Though that would seem very homophobic of Dr. K calling it "Abnormal"
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Lobsel Vith wrote:I doubt she had any incestuous inclinations - just a textbook Electra complex. This could also explain the hostility toward her mother.
Isn't the electra complex an incestuous inclination? Or you mean that she wasn't a straight incestuous person ? In that case she couldn't be one 'cause she actually didn't have a father to perform incest per se.
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Lobsel Vith wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:I felt it was pretty obvious that Cheryl is "pigtails", unless you want to invoke ESP or something.

Cheryl is frigid and refuses to have sex with any of her normal peers, like a boyfriend, but she keeps having sex with older men who remind her of her father. Basically, she's projecting a buttload of unsatisfied incestual inclinations.

"I love my Daddy" means more than you think.
I doubt she had any incestuous inclinations - just a textbook Electra complex. This could also explain the hostility toward her mother.

Er, is that not what an Electra complex is? When Harry died she was 7 and therefore too young to have any incestuous inclinations; the Cheryl we learn about after Harry's death, however, wanted Harry sexually.
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It's not incestuous if it's all subconscious - that's what I meant by my comment.
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...lolwut. An "incestual inclination" is incestual whether or not you act on it. The actual deed going undone does not make the thoughts and emotions any less incestual.

Of course, no one here is actually suggesting that Cheryl and Harry actually did it (though they sort of did vis-a-vis Young!Dahlia).
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Er, is that not what an Electra complex is? When Harry died she was 7 and therefore too young to have any incestuous inclinations; the Cheryl we learn about after Harry's death, however, wanted Harry sexually.
So 8 year old little Cheryl wanted her father sexually? :shock:
Plus there is no real proof that Cherly wanted him sexually, right? She sleeps with men who resemble her father because she wants him in her life. Doesn't mean that she wanted her "father" sexually. Or I could be wrong. It's just so sick and twisted to even think about! Lol.
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