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Collected hidden stuff,variations, pics, videos, etc. thread
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Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
Post subject:  Collected hidden stuff,variations, pics, videos, etc. thread

Unfortunately this is yet another game not released for the PC. While I've been able to rip some stuff and look at some files from the Wii version, it's just not the same as going through the files as easily as one can do in the PC versions. Therefore, this has been slow going.... The really long texts I have just posted as links. I am still working on a more complete explanation of exactly how everything influences the appearance of things and places, still looking at the coding involved, taking notes, making charts, etc. so I will be posting that in the near future, I hope. Most of this is incomplete. I will also eventually remember to post all the pics of all possible echos and things like that as well.

I have transcribed the text of all phone messages (text and voice) and posted them here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/959196-sile ... faqs/58890

Plot guide and recurring themes analysis:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/959196-sile ... faqs/58890

CONCEPT ART, RENDERS, SCANS ETC
http://alchemillahospital.net/gallery/t ... p?album=28

Harry and Cheryl photo


Some textures ripped from Wii version
http://alchemillahospital.net/gallery/t ... p?album=33




GAME SAVES (PSP)
[offline]

Photos:



Variations in locations
Here is a list of some of the variations in scenery and
text in the game. More to come. There is a thread including character variations here.

PLAYGROUND
-beer cans in the puzzle
-soda cans in the puzzle

BAR -
-sports theme
-Irish theme

DINER 52 -
-brightly lit
-dimly lit, reddish lighting

-male standup sign with microphone, holding menu
http://alchemillahospital.net/gallery/a ... b14_14.jpg
http://alchemillahospital.net/gallery/a ... ndiner.jpg
-topless woman cardboard standup sign, hands covering breasts,
menu between legs.


BILLBOARD AD NEAR BAR -

-Bodkin Insurance
-Brodie Insurance
-United Fruitcake Outlet (not seen until 2nd playthrough)

ORION LODGE -

-Bloody bear on the table in first room, darker wood, more
bloody and messy in general
-stuffed bear in the corner in first room, mounted animal heads
on the walls, more organized looking and lighter wood

THE CAT HOUSE -

-Cat House: Outside has some signs with cat eyes and "cat House" written on
them.
-Honey Trap: Purple neon "The Honey Trap" sign on black rectangle background.
-Lotus: Sign has white background, "Lotus" and a picture of a lotus flower.
Inside is pretty much the same except for some green lighting and green walls.

SCHOOL

Courtyard -

***********************************************
The mural on the wall, visible if you're standing in the middle of the courtyard,
reflects the classes you chose on the psych test.

Statues outside School Gymnasium -

***********************************************
1 - Lion
2 - Running headless boy
3 - Virgin Mary

Inside Gymnasium
***********************************************
-blue and yellow with balloons
-red with candles and flowers on table
-darker, reddish tablecloths with 3 large candles on each

BALKAN NIGHT CLUB
-blue with lots of neon
-hardwood/brick, more brownish color scheme.
-red lighting

MALL -

-shutter you crawl under later in level reads "Girls love shopping.
Come inside. We work you good." on top of a black dragon (I think).
-shutter reads "Burn this shithole down. Burn all you people" over
a red skull and crossbones.
-shutter reads "Foreclosure Notice" and a bunch of text I can't
quite make out.

LISA'S APARTMENT
-poster above couch is abstract painting
-poster says something in French about "la meme chose.."

CINEMA -


-playing "Together Forever"
-playing "Good Poison"
-playing "The Dancer"
-playing "Mother Dearest"

LAKESIDE AMUSEMENT PARK

-Cupid's Bow sign
-Hot Rod Racers sign
-Wild Horses sign
-Pirate Pete's Barrels of Grog

TOWN -

-"Cinema Obscura" poster is green with three pictures on it
-"Cinema Obscura" poster is brown with four pictures on it

PAWN SHOP
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Neon sign
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1 - red nude woman below text "PAWN SHOP"

2 - dollar sign with "checks cashed, money orders, PAWN SHOP"

3 - "PAWN SHOP" then two dollar signs, then "HARD CASH"


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Taxidermied animal
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1 - female lion
2 - large dodo bird
3 - peacock

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Sign outside
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1 - red
2 - green
3 - purple

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Display window
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1 - scantily-clad mannequins in a bondage scene
2 - television, gas masks and a sign reading "Hard Cash, instant money"
3 - maybe lamps and candle holders? I can't tell.

DOCK AREA (left dock) - X-rust posted pics of all these here
1 - dead deer
2 - a boat called "Der Oswind"
3 - fish and birds

RAW SHOCKS
I'm not entirely sure what influences these, and in some games,
I have gotten more than one type. I have taken the names from the way they are named in the coding. X-rust posted pics of all these here

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Sexy raw Shocks
***********************
These ones have no features except huge lips on their faces,
they have breasts and feet that look like they are wearing heels.
They also have sort of scars/gashes around the thigh that makes it
look like they're wearing thigh high stockings. Small waists.
Questions about sex seem to influence you getting these.

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Older woman raw Shocks
***********************
These are similar to the sexy raw shocks but plumper and less
shapely, the breasts sag and they have large (pregnant?) bellies.
They seem to be a subset of the Sexy Raw Shocks.

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Cancer raw Shocks
***********************
These ones look like they are covered in tumors like the elephant man.
Lumpy and misshapen.

***********************
Abstract raw Shocks
***********************
These look like cubist raw shocks or raw shocks made of lego bricks,
they have holes and look like they are sliced apart. There are empty
spaces in them. The "abstract thinking" question seems to give you
these ones.

***********************
Wasted raw Shocks
***********************
These ones are emaciated looking and it looks like their spines
are coming out of their back. The questions about alcohol seem to
give you these ones.

[all this crap unfinished and needing more work]

Author:  Yana [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
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Woah this is awesome!! It's good that you've been able to manage to rip so much off a Wii disc.. It's really interesting as well when you see stuff they took out last minute but are still on the disc, makes you wonder where they would have used it in the game. Thanks for posting this. I think it should be stickied as well to be honest. :P

Author:  Yiyo-chan [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
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Those Dog pictures are so cute. :3 I'll be checking on these links .
Thank you !

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
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Yana wrote:
Woah this is awesome!! It's good that you've been able to manage to rip so much off a Wii disc.. It's really interesting as well when you see stuff they took out last minute but are still on the disc, makes you wonder where they would have used it in the game. Thanks for posting this. I think it should be stickied as well to be honest. :P

I've barely ripped anything off the disc at this point, mostly I have just transcribed things and wrote down differences. Working on it, though...

Here are some of the variations, I will make more screens and put image links in the first post though:
Image
cans in playground
Image
the cafe signs
Image
school courtyard statues
Image
the lodge
Image
the bar
Image
shutters in mall

http://alchemillahospital.net/images/sh ... boards.jpg
billboards outside bar
http://alchemillahospital.net/images/sh ... scura2.jpg
the camera obscura posters.

more to come eventually.

Author:  Harlequin [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
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I never realized that ALL of those had different variations too! It's the subtle differences that make it so much fun. :) Thanks for finding all of these, I know it's probably a pain haha.

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
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This is one of the most badass threads ever.

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 04 Jun 2010 ]
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Thanks.

Updates:

Edited: Please see gamefaqs link in OP, where everything is collected.

I also added the three Dahlia pics and another stranded pic to first post.

Still working on making more/better screencaps of things.

Author:  simeonalo [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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It's about time you collect some stuff from the newest game :)

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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simeonalo wrote:
It's about time you collect some stuff from the newest game :)

I've had all that on my site for many months now, and also on Gamefaqs. I was just too lazy to gather it all into a forum thread here. =0p

I just added a couple more pics to the first post. Started gathering together some of my pics of the echoes but not finished yet.

Edit: also added individual pics of everything in the pawn shop section above.

Author:  Matador [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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Thanks nur_ein_tier,
these are great! :)

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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Added echo photos to first post.

GAME SAVES (PSP)
These are PSP savefiles, all saves are at the lighthouse right before the ending, so you just have to walk through the door.

Drunk Dad
drunkdad.zip
Profile name "Heather." This has the part where Cheryl says someone needs to be blamed, then she leaves and hugs her mom, then the drunk dad video plays.

UFO
ufoending.zip
Profile name "Amy." UFO Ending.

Love Lost
lovelost.zip
Profile name "Harry." Dr. K. "This is going nowhere..." Cheryl to Harry "You've been with me so long." CHeryl leaves and hugs Dahlia. Love lost ending.

Author:  clips [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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Nice thread... :)

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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CONCEPT ART, RENDERS, SCANS ETC
http://alchemillahospital.net/gallery/t ... p?album=28

Author:  ashatteredmemory [ 05 Jun 2010 ]
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Wow, great job ;)
i never saw the Adult Cheryl concept art before

Author:  Yana [ 06 Jun 2010 ]
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So in the adult concept of Cheryl she did smoke after all!! Y'know, cause she said she gave up the cigarettes in SH3. I know I know, it's not canon, but still! Interesting how they put that in the concept art.

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 06 Jun 2010 ]
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Yana wrote:
So in the adult concept of Cheryl she did smoke after all!! Y'know, cause she said she gave up the cigarettes in SH3. I know I know, it's not canon, but still! Interesting how they put that in the concept art.


Tomm Hullett says it's canon:
Tomm Hullett wrote:
As I said in the last interview, SM is just as canonical as any entry in the series. It goes perfectly with the “bad” ending of SH1.


I take all that with a grain of salt though. TH also said the idea of Cheryl having an Elektra complex was unintentional and wacky.

That being said, it's concept art, so I doubt they were putting a lot of thought into minor details like the cigarette. And it was a younger version of her that quit, so she could have started up again. Having to put up with Dr. K could lead anyone to drink and smoke.

The concepts arts are all done by Wesley Burt, I think. His site is here.

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 06 Jun 2010 ]
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Quote:
Tomm Hullett says it's canon:


He also defines the word "canon" entirely separately from the majority of the fandom.

Author:  nur_ein_tier [ 06 Jun 2010 ]
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Added more echo photos to first post.



AuraTwilight wrote:
Quote:
Tomm Hullett says it's canon:


He also defines the word "canon" entirely separately from the majority of the fandom.

I was being facetious. I can see now how it would be difficult to know that, though, reading the post. Mostly I meant to say that I don't agree with certain things he said anyway, regardless of how he defines "canon."

I don't think you can say if smoking cigarettes fits in with the canonical character of Cheryl/Heather, anyway, since it is possible to quit and then start again.

THE PSYCH PROFILES
Okay, don't think I've totally cracked this stuff yet. What I have done is gone through the codes and made graphs (on graph paper, so I can't post everything yet) and there are like "+" and "-" signs, apparently meaning the answer you give or a thing you look at or don't look at, which influences characters, locations, and endings. I haven't even tested what I am posting yet, just posting this to say I am starting work on it. This first bit refers only to the very first psych test, the questionnaire:

To get Sexy Cybil (blue button down shirt):
7 I have never cheated on a partner - FALSE

To get nice Cybil:

2. Having a drink helps me relax - TRUE
6 A plan or schedule is best - TRUE
or
2. Having a drink helps me relax - FALSE
4. I prefer abstract ideas - FALSE

To get mean Cybil:
2. Having a drink helps me relax - TRUE
6 A plan or schedule is best - FALSE
or
2. Having a drink helps me relax - FALSE
4. I prefer abstract ideas - TRUE

Diner:
The "I have never cheated on a partner" question apparently influences the look of the diner, probably if you get the sign with the topless woman(FALSE), or the man with the microphone (TRUE).

I'm not sure, but I think the way to get the Oriental Lotus involves saying "FALSE" to "Having a drink helps me relax" There are also other factors that come into play, but I am trying to figure out a few of the simpler ones first.

Author:  Arsonist [ 09 Jun 2010 ]
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I am aroused by this thread. Thank you, Tier, for all of the cool content you gave us a better look at over the years!

Author:  clips [ 11 Jun 2010 ]
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How do you get the diner to open?...everytime i've played the diner was closed and i had to go across the street to the bar.

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