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Son_of_Kauffman
Gravedigger
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Missing since: 13 Mar 2006 Notes left: 573 Last seen at: Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia
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PH is only an illusion.
_________________ Spetsnaz of the Interior Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia
Spetsnaz sil Vnutrenniye Voiska Ministerstva Vnutrennikh Del
http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/2 ... ef=opinion
Think of Italy — which reminds me of California in so many ways — and its chronic inability to form a government. That’s California, with even better food and no parliamentary system.
....somewhere in Italy a contract was put out on the life of the article's author.
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James Casey
My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 24 Apr 2006 Notes left: 318 Last seen at: Newfoundland, Canada
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[spoiler]not in the movie he's not[/spoiler]
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Scarlet
Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 09 Mar 2004 Notes left: 4987 Last seen at: Pits of Hell
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Do NOT discuss or mention the movie outside the spoilerific movie room. You guys know the rules, don't you?
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James Casey
My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 24 Apr 2006 Notes left: 318 Last seen at: Newfoundland, Canada
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The information put forward in lost memories is not debatable, but somebody said that when god is birthed valtiel seems to be nurturing it. I'm not sure about this. What exactly would you say he's doing?
He puts that flap thing over the god's head. Not really nurturing is it? I'm not sure what it's supposed to do.
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The Adversary
RESPECT
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003 Notes left: 19401 Last seen at: #lfk
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Valtiel is Xuchilbara, the red god.
_________________ This post is the property of its author and is not to be used elsewhere without explicit permission from the author.
. . . AND THAT'S THAT.
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I.. see. I don't need to ask if you're sure about that, but I certainly didn't know.
I remember the old days where people didn't have a clue and though PH was Xuchil and valtiel was Lobsel Vith, but I certainly wasnt aware of this fact. It's not mentioned in lost memories is it? I thought I read all of that.
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Yes! It makes sense! I did a little digging and found that Xuchilbara in the Mayan language means 'Flower spear' kinda weird for Valtiel OR Phead, but then again, lobsel vith means 'bad circle of flesh' or 'bad vessel of flesh' which lead me to belive that alessa is the yellow god. and that would leave Valtiel to be Mr. Flower spear.
I also belive that Pheads are like Valtiels Secret service, acting as Valtiels hands in less important matters in silent hill.
Meh, or all my theories are crap. I don't know.
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thelonebamf
Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 24 Apr 2006 Notes left: 110
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Iriaofnod
Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 01 May 2006 Notes left: 3 Last seen at: Wexford, PA
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Dr. Loomis, your website is awesome! Those translated guides are great. Great job to you and everyone who translated them o__O
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valtiel is the gurdian of alessa/heather he protects the god from diying
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The Adversary
RESPECT
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003 Notes left: 19401 Last seen at: #lfk
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>I.. see. I don't need to ask if you're sure about that, but I certainly didn't know.
I'll elaborate upon why soon. Don't worry. Just about this though: Rebirth.
_________________ This post is the property of its author and is not to be used elsewhere without explicit permission from the author.
. . . AND THAT'S THAT.
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Asra
Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 25 Apr 2006 Notes left: 58 Last seen at: Nowhere
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Son_of_Kauffman wrote: PH is only an illusion.
Well there is a bit of evidence to the contrary in Silent Hill 3 which point to Pyramid Head's existance.
[spoiler]
Look at the Pyramid head with the arm on the left.[/spoiler]
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That's not a picture of PH from SH2 though, it just explains the significance of PH's appearance. PH from SH2 is only an illusion in that he was created to appear to james, to punish him etc. but has no significance other than that, hence when all the business of SH2 was complete then there was no need for that particular effigy to exist.
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Asra
Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 25 Apr 2006 Notes left: 58 Last seen at: Nowhere
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Well the appearance itself is probably important though. If it were merely just a random vision of Jame's torment it could take any form. Why take something that so closely resembles that, one of the (presumably)holy figures of the order?
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His appearance to james probably did have significance, I must have worded what I said badly.
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Alessyl
Brookhaven Receptionist
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Missing since: 29 Mar 2006 Notes left: 761 Last seen at: Alternate Madison, WI
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Dr. Loomis wrote:
Thank you, arigatou, gracias...*ka-hug* That was very helpful *bows* OW! Should not bow with heavy backpack on. *rubs sore neck*
_________________ Are you still following me? Do I have to scream? ~Heather
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I normally see Valtiel near nuns and pipes,he/she/it also takes care of claudia when she swallows god oh and the he/she/it taking heather's body away when she's dead thing too
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92mon
Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 30 May 2006 Notes left: 58
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valtiel is one of my favorite monsters in the silent hill series. thank you for this amazing thread.
i just wish you got to fight him at the end
_________________ Fighting for peace is like Fucking for virginity.
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Son_of_Kauffman
Gravedigger
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Missing since: 13 Mar 2006 Notes left: 573 Last seen at: Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia
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Valtiel´s job is to birth God.
_________________ Spetsnaz of the Interior Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia
Spetsnaz sil Vnutrenniye Voiska Ministerstva Vnutrennikh Del
http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/2 ... ef=opinion
Think of Italy — which reminds me of California in so many ways — and its chronic inability to form a government. That’s California, with even better food and no parliamentary system.
....somewhere in Italy a contract was put out on the life of the article's author.
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