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valtiel ?
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Author:  Son_of_Kauffman [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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PH is only an illusion.

Author:  James Casey [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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[spoiler]not in the movie he's not[/spoiler]

Author:  Scarlet [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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Do NOT discuss or mention the movie outside the spoilerific movie room. You guys know the rules, don't you?

Author:  James Casey [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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sry,i thought it wasn't a spoiler,hell..i didnt even see the movie yet lol

Author:  Anonymous [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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The information put forward in lost memories is not debatable, but somebody said that when god is birthed valtiel seems to be nurturing it. I'm not sure about this. What exactly would you say he's doing?

He puts that flap thing over the god's head. Not really nurturing is it? I'm not sure what it's supposed to do.

Author:  The Adversary [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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Valtiel is Xuchilbara, the red god.

Author:  Anonymous [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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I.. see. I don't need to ask if you're sure about that, but I certainly didn't know.

I remember the old days where people didn't have a clue and though PH was Xuchil and valtiel was Lobsel Vith, but I certainly wasnt aware of this fact. It's not mentioned in lost memories is it? I thought I read all of that.

Author:  Anonymous [ 30 Apr 2006 ]
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Yes! It makes sense! I did a little digging and found that Xuchilbara in the Mayan language means 'Flower spear' kinda weird for Valtiel OR Phead, but then again, lobsel vith means 'bad circle of flesh' or 'bad vessel of flesh' which lead me to belive that alessa is the yellow god. and that would leave Valtiel to be Mr. Flower spear.

I also belive that Pheads are like Valtiels Secret service, acting as Valtiels hands in less important matters in silent hill.

Meh, or all my theories are crap. I don't know.

Author:  thelonebamf [ 01 May 2006 ]
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Oh man, thanks for the translated memories post. :)

Author:  Iriaofnod [ 01 May 2006 ]
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Dr. Loomis, your website is awesome! Those translated guides are great. Great job to you and everyone who translated them o__O

Author:  Anonymous [ 01 May 2006 ]
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valtiel is the gurdian of alessa/heather he protects the god from diying

Author:  The Adversary [ 01 May 2006 ]
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>I.. see. I don't need to ask if you're sure about that, but I certainly didn't know.
I'll elaborate upon why soon. Don't worry. Just about this though: Rebirth.

Author:  Asra [ 01 May 2006 ]
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Son_of_Kauffman wrote:
PH is only an illusion.


Well there is a bit of evidence to the contrary in Silent Hill 3 which point to Pyramid Head's existance.

[spoiler]Image
Look at the Pyramid head with the arm on the left.[/spoiler]

Author:  Anonymous [ 01 May 2006 ]
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That's not a picture of PH from SH2 though, it just explains the significance of PH's appearance. PH from SH2 is only an illusion in that he was created to appear to james, to punish him etc. but has no significance other than that, hence when all the business of SH2 was complete then there was no need for that particular effigy to exist.

Author:  Asra [ 01 May 2006 ]
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Well the appearance itself is probably important though. If it were merely just a random vision of Jame's torment it could take any form. Why take something that so closely resembles that, one of the (presumably)holy figures of the order?

Author:  Anonymous [ 01 May 2006 ]
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His appearance to james probably did have significance, I must have worded what I said badly.

Author:  Alessyl [ 08 May 2006 ]
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Dr. Loomis wrote:
hope this helps in your quest for knowledge:

http://www.translatedmemories.com/bookpgs/Pg84-85.jpg

Thank you, arigatou, gracias...*ka-hug* That was very helpful *bows* OW! Should not bow with heavy backpack on. *rubs sore neck*

Author:  Anonymous [ 22 May 2006 ]
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I normally see Valtiel near nuns and pipes,he/she/it also takes care of claudia when she swallows god oh and the he/she/it taking heather's body away when she's dead thing too

Author:  92mon [ 03 Jun 2006 ]
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valtiel is one of my favorite monsters in the silent hill series. thank you for this amazing thread.
i just wish you got to fight him at the end

Author:  Son_of_Kauffman [ 03 Jun 2006 ]
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Valtiel´s job is to birth God.

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