Why a mask for snowwhite and a red shoe for cinderella?

Website · Post by **angelofROOM302** » 14 Sep 2008

Yep, it all sounds pretty good!

Why do you find the doll-head among some candles, a goblet and a glass ball (with crest) in the Fortune-teller-place? And why the red shoe in the spotlight on the stage?

Here's what i'm thinking. If the doll head didn't really mean anything, those are usually things that would be in a fortune teller place. In the fairytale, Snow White finds the dwarf's house which is completely messy! So she cleans it up. I'm not sure if where the head is is supposed to be analyzed that much, but it makes kinda sence.

And for the shoe being the spotlight of the stage is because Cinderella deserved to be in the spotlight. All of the time, her stupid step sisters and step mother placed her in the back doing all the work when all she wanted was one special night out with the prince. So yeah, she deserved to be in the spotlight. If that makes any sence.

Post by **Kupomee** » 14 Sep 2008

It actually does, thread problem solved if ya ask me!

Post by **lain of the wired** » 19 Sep 2008

Actually, in the original French, Cinderella's shoe is made of squirrel fur, but that's neither here nor there.

The shoe is red, not prettyprettyglass, because in the original story, the prince doesn't come for Cindy first. He first comes for the stepsisters. However, their feet are far too large for the slipper, so their mother has the first one cut off her big toe. The shoe fits, the prince and his bride-to-be take off for the palace, when the prince hears a bird outside the carriage. "Blood in the shoe! The princess isn't true!" So the prince checks the shoe, and sure enough, there's blood in the shoe. So they turn around.

So he tries the second sister. She's cut off her heel to make her foot fit. Again, on the way to the palace, the prince hears the bird, so again he checks, and again he turns right around, finally finding Cindy.

It could also be an allusion to yet another version of the story, in which, after finally marrying the prince, Cindy has a vindictive streak and makes her wicked step mother dance at her wedding in red-hot iron shoes until she falls down dead.

Do we understand now? :3

Website · Post by **angelofROOM302** » 20 Sep 2008

^^Hmm. Would the creators actually dig into Cinderella that much though?

Post by **JuriDawn** » 20 Sep 2008

It doesn't take that much digging. I was already aware of the foot-mutilation version, though I can't remember where I heard it.

Post by **lain of the wired** » 20 Sep 2008

I've a book, Grimm's Grimmest. My mom bought it for christmas for me a few years ago at Borders Books. $12. Not much digging at all, and it's still got stories in it I'd never heard of before.

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 20 Sep 2008

A brief browse of a Wikipedia article on fairytales could probably give you the blood in the show/toe mutilation bit.

The doll head shaped like an apple scared the hell out of me, though of course I don't understand it's connection to Snow White apart from the fact that it's shaped like an apple. Didn't the witch in that story want to be young and beautiful? Idk.

Website · Post by **angelofROOM302** » 20 Sep 2008

^^Yeah. The Witch in Snow White wanted to be the most beautifulest person in the kingdom.

I've a book, Grimm's Grimmest. My mom bought it for christmas for me a few years ago at Borders Books. $12. Not much digging at all, and it's still got stories in it I'd never heard of before.

But we're talking about Cinderella. Not Cindy.

I WANT that book!!

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 20 Sep 2008

Cindy = Cinderella D:

Post by **SHACKled89451** » 20 Sep 2008

Krist. wrote:Cindy = Cinderella D:

Thanks... I'm an abbreviation addict! Cindy and SW

Post by **Morbid.Marionette** » 20 Sep 2008

I looked up Snow-White and Rose-Red. (Rose-Red is Snow-White's sister).
But I came up with nothing important.

Website · Post by **angelofROOM302** » 21 Sep 2008

Oh, I suck at abbreviations!

Post by **DarkeningNightmare** » 21 Sep 2008

there was also the fairytale that heather reads to slay the monster guarding the door of the office building. maybe alessa had someone (lisa?) read them to her to escape the pain she was enduring.

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 21 Sep 2008

It's possible. But, and I hope you don't think I'm trying to offend you, that's like one of those minor details that really just embellishes and embroiders the point instead of making one on its own. The fact alone that Lisa took care of Alessa (willingly or unwillingly) was enough for Alessa to feel some sort of affection for her. Whether or not a person wants to elaborate on the details of said care-taking is up to them but it doesn't really change much or make a different point, you know?

Post by **DarkeningNightmare** » 22 Sep 2008

Krist. wrote:It's possible. But, and I hope you don't think I'm trying to offend you, that's like one of those minor details that really just embellishes and embroiders the point instead of making one on its own. The fact alone that Lisa took care of Alessa (willingly or unwillingly) was enough for Alessa to feel some sort of affection for her. Whether or not a person wants to elaborate on the details of said care-taking is up to them but it doesn't really change much or make a different point, you know?

no offense taken. i'm still kinda new to this and this is the first forum i ever joined so i guess i get a little over zealous

Post by **residentevil5** » 22 Oct 2008

Maybe they base the fairytale characters in the old version. In which it wasn't a happy ending for some character. Or maybe base on grim brother fairytale. The little mermaid was imprison inside a statue after she was turn into foam....Cinderella originally had glass slipper although some stories suggest it was leather...Any way it was true that her stepsister cut her toe. And the other one her heel or ankle so the shoe did turn crimson red.....As for the head....well i'm a bit stumped on that. Until now I still don't see any connection. Other than what JuriDawn said.

Raider Man · Post by **Raider Man** » 22 Oct 2008

Sorry if I changed the subject for a little bit, but had anybody noticed the two pictures? The cinderella was on the left and snow white on the right, but there is something wrong, thats what Heather said, is it related to any of these things? The red shoe that you think its a blood shoe or someting and the dull thing about beauty?!! What the picture is all about. Little help here please.

Website · Post by **angelofROOM302** » 22 Oct 2008

Guys... it's really not that complicated.

Sorry if I changed the subject for a little bit, but had anybody noticed the two pictures? The cinderella was on the left and snow white on the right, but there is something wrong, thats what Heather said, is it related to any of these things? The red shoe that you think its a blood shoe or someting and the dull thing about beauty?!! What the picture is all about. Little help here please.

Heather said something's wrong because they don't really look like the Disney princesses. And they're in a really akward place and you have to find really akward things for them to continue with the game.

Post by **Kupomee** » 22 Oct 2008

Something's wrong because in the pictures there's shadows of objects that aren't there in reality.

Also, those pictures were taken from over the shoulders of the statues, which creeped me out. Like someone was watching me from above in that room.
Which is nicely fitting in with the god or Alessa manipulating Heather at that point and it/her looking in on Heathers actions at that point.

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 22 Oct 2008

Raider Man wrote:Sorry if I changed the subject for a little bit, but had anybody noticed the two pictures? The cinderella was on the left and snow white on the right, but there is something wrong, thats what Heather said, is it related to any of these things? The red shoe that you think its a blood shoe or someting and the dull thing about beauty?!! What the picture is all about. Little help here please.

How about you read the thread? That's what we're discussing. :/