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Metatron's Seal
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Author:  SHF [ 19 Sep 2010 ]
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samael is to satan as metatron( valtiel) is to god. they are both right under the supreme deities

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 19 Sep 2010 ]
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Samael and Metatron are both under God. Samael isn't an evil demon or a fallen angel, but if anything Metatron's equal, or even another aspect of him. They're basically equivalent.

Author:  SHF [ 20 Sep 2010 ]
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if they are the same, then theres no reason to have different names

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 20 Sep 2010 ]
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...You need to read some more mythology. Lots of supernatural beings have multiple names and titles. God, for example, is said to have a billion names in certain Abrahamic faiths.

This trend is usually because most young cultures held the idea that a person's true name could be used to threaten or control them with magic, so things like gods, demons, and angels only told mortals a bunch of false names.

Author:  SHF [ 20 Sep 2010 ]
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so your saying metatron and samael are the same thing just different names?

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 20 Sep 2010 ]
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YES. That's exactly what I said the first time. They're two aspects of the same entity.

Author:  The Adversary [ 21 Sep 2010 ]
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They're two sides of the same coin, basically, thus they "share the same existence."

Author:  SHF [ 21 Sep 2010 ]
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is valtiel then metatron

Author:  The Adversary [ 21 Sep 2010 ]
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Yes.

Author:  Matrix [ 22 Sep 2010 ]
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Must be one schizoid God in Silent Hill.

Author:  SHF [ 22 Sep 2010 ]
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its kinda confusing. my theory is that valtiel is actually in control of the otherworld( i remember when we see him turning the valves, i felt like he was repairing the otherworld. making sure it worked). also seemed like he was a guardian for heather( moreso for the god fetus)

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 22 Sep 2010 ]
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Valtiel isn't really in control of the Otherworld. Even if you interpret him as being a real deity and not a manifestation, all he's doing is symbolically representing the spread and growth of the Otherworld that Alessa is responsible for.

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Must be one schizoid God in Silent Hill.


1) That's not what schizoid means. 2) It's not crazy or dissociative to have many names, as I already explained. Having multiple titles and names is impressive and indicative of great power in mythology and magic.

Author:  SHF [ 22 Sep 2010 ]
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so in essence: alessa=god. and valtiel=her vale.

Author:  simeonalo [ 22 Sep 2010 ]
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I don't see Alessa as god, but as a person who gave birth to God, though she does have some remarkable powers.

Author:  AuraTwilight [ 22 Sep 2010 ]
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helldescent wrote:
so in essence: alessa=god. and valtiel=her vale.


Alessa is not God. How are you not understanding this?

Author:  Soulless-Shadow [ 23 Sep 2010 ]
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helldescent wrote:
so in essence: alessa=god. and valtiel=her vale.

Alessa is the Mother of God, not God itself/herself/whatever. Without her, "God" can't be born into this world. They're not the same being. She's simply the vessel used for birthing/creating it. It's sort of like the Virgin Mary and Jesus. Mother and child.
You're right about Valtiel though. He/it is God's valet or whatever. His purpose is to watch over Heather, but that's just to ensure she births God, otherwise he's not particularly interested in her.

Author:  SHF [ 23 Sep 2010 ]
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oh. alessa is mother of god. auratwilight, i know im frustrating u. sorry but this is confusing. bear with me please

Author:  simeonalo [ 23 Sep 2010 ]
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You're not frustrating anyone, I believe.

So if Alessa is the "vessel" for a god, Walter would be on the same level, right?

Author:  Soulless-Shadow [ 23 Sep 2010 ]
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simeonalo wrote:
So if Alessa is the "vessel" for a god, Walter would be on the same level, right?

Sort of. Walter is preforming a different ritual/ceremony than the one that was done to Alessa. This is an interesting thread about it all.

Author:  pepazdepa [ 13 May 2018 ]
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Sorry to revive an old thread but me and my friends had a discussion about this: What exactly is the white and red circular talisman that Leonard and Vincent want to use against Claudia made of?

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