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Hope House Careworker
 Post subject: Silent Hill 1 - 3 Bosses

Missing since: 28 Feb 2006
Notes left: 731
Last seen at: Australia
I noticed that there was a close similarity between the bosses and the order you fight them in.

1. Split Worm / Giant Lizard
2. Missionary / Gigantic Larva
3. Leonard Wolf / Moth
4. The Memory Of Alessa / Cybil
5. The God / Samael

1. Long grey body, mouth opens the same way and is vulnerable when it does. Takes place at the end of the first area (school/mall) and is the catalyst for turning ‘nightmare’ to ‘normal’ world. And Alessa is the first thing we see after that happens

The order is off with the next two, but only slightly:

2. Missionary / Moth – Both take place on a rooftop
3. Leonard / Larva – Take place underground, on the bottom level of an area. The fight is the same, the monster moves under a surface where it can’t be shot (sand/water) and pops up to attack.

4. Both take place on the exact same carrousel. Both are in the form of humans, just evil versions of that person. Both use a handgun, move and shoot the same way.
5. Both are the same god, totally different appearance but the fight is similar. One brings down lightning, the other brings down fire.

Anyway, thanks for reading

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Woodside Apartments Janitor
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Missing since: 27 Oct 2003
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Last seen at: Everywhere {UK}
Nice

Also
5. God and Samael-(Incubus) both dont have a stomach, they just have a backbone.

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Missing since: 16 Nov 2005
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Last seen at: Southeast of Greenwich...somewhere sandy.
Great observation!!!
Damn I never Thought about that.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 28 Jan 2006
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Last seen at: Lakeside Amusement Park
I suppose it ties in with the wheel of fate theme. Heather is tracing the steps of her father the last time someone tried to ressurect the god. Great work Agent!

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Yeah I noticed two bosses looking simular, but not that many. I'm gald that you pointed that out. :mrgreen:


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 04 Mar 2006
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Last seen at: Lakeside Amusement Park Concession Stands
wow amazing similarity man props :D

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 12 Mar 2006
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Yeah nice one, never noticed basically all of what you just posted.
Good job xD

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Missing since: 21 Jul 2003
Notes left: 11978
Last seen at: Nova Scotia, Canada
I'm sure this was intended.

Also note that Heather is haunted by new and improved versions of some of SH1's enemies: The dogs, the nurses, and the sewer monsters (now the annoying little guys who crawl on the floor).

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Hope House Careworker
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Missing since: 28 Feb 2006
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Last seen at: Australia
"I'm sure this was intended"

Me too, I mean there is alot of mirroring between the two.

You've got the same antagonist, Dahlia/Claudia - Crazy memer of the cult determined to birth their God through Alessa

And a similar lacky, Kauffman/Vincent - Man who helps the villain but does not want God to be born the way she does

The Start - Protagonist having a dream about dying then waking up in a cafe/resturant

The End - you need to collect 5 items to open the same door which leads down some stairs to the final confronation between you and the two villains

There are probably hundred more...

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Missing since: 21 Jul 2003
Notes left: 11978
Last seen at: Nova Scotia, Canada
They also both end with underwhelming endings.

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By the bright lights in some ICU on my chest you put your head
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There you are.
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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Missing since: 19 Feb 2006
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Both with an official person on the side of the protagonist:

Cybil is a cop with Harry
Douglas is a Private Investigator with Heather.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 01 Mar 2004
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Last seen at: Waco, Texas
My pants tighten everytime I see the main character, there are hundreds more!

:P

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My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 06 May 2005
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[spoiler]Well that's because of Heather's true identity. Am I correct?[/spoiler]


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 20 Jul 2005
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Faded.Memories wrote:
Both with an official person on the side of the protagonist:

Cybil is a cop with Harry
Douglas is a Private Investigator with Heather.


You said that Douglas is a private investigator, so he's not an official like Cybil. But I see the relationship though.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 01 Mar 2004
Notes left: 3526
Last seen at: Waco, Texas
The appearance of Valtiel is in both games as well....sort of ...

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Missing since: 21 Jul 2003
Notes left: 11978
Last seen at: Nova Scotia, Canada
The appearance of Valtiel is in all of the SH games.

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"I dreamt last night I saw you
A single spark explosion negotiating with the dead
By the bright lights in some ICU on my chest you put your head
and said "There you are.
There you are.
There's my heart..."


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 01 Mar 2004
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Last seen at: Waco, Texas
Well, yeah! .... :P

....but still it was more clear in 1&3.....especially 3.

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RESPECT
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003
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>The appearance of Valtiel is in all of the SH games.
No it's not.

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Missing since: 21 Jul 2003
Notes left: 11978
Last seen at: Nova Scotia, Canada
Yeah, it is.

SH1: The bodies dressed like Valtiel.
SH2: Pyramid Head, dressed like Valtiel.
SH3: Valtiel himself.
SH4: While not an actual appearance per se (Valtiel himself only shows up in 3, and his outfit is mimicked in 1 and 2), Walter's power comes from Valtiel, so in a sense Walter himself is an appearance of Valtiel.

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"I dreamt last night I saw you
A single spark explosion negotiating with the dead
By the bright lights in some ICU on my chest you put your head
and said "There you are.
There you are.
There's my heart..."


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 01 Mar 2004
Notes left: 3526
Last seen at: Waco, Texas
Drewfus wrote:
SH2: Pyramid Head, dressed like Valtiel.
Well, If I remember correctly Valtiel was designed before Phead was. All the creature designer did was Slap a helmet on him and called him something else.

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