Silent Hill Heaven

I could have sworn I saw a thread on this already a while back, but my searches proved fruitless, so please forgive me if this has already been posted.
This always used to confuse me whenever I played Silent Hill 3, because I had no idea what it was referring to.
In the room where you find the empty wine bottle in the underground passage, you can check the debris next to the wine rack and Heather will think, "The body must have been crushed by something very heavy. By this then? How horrible."
But I could never - and still can't, even on the HD collection - see a body that was "crushed by something very heavy", anywhere.
Recently, playing through Silent Hill 3 again, I found a spot in the subway area that is blocked by a ton of debris and I can make out the feet of a person sticking out from under all of it, and I think there's some blood around them. When I checked it, Heather doesn't make any mention of it. This got me wondering if they somehow got the text mixed up for these two spots.
Has anyone else ever noticed this? Does anyone know if this actually is a mistake?

That sounds familiar. I'm almost pretty sure that I vaguely recall someone used a cam hack and found that there was no body in that area. I don't remember where I saw this though, so I have now idea where to find a link or anything. I'll have a quick look around and if I find it I'll post it. If I'm remembering things correctly, then you're probably right, they've put the text in the wrong spot, or something...

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Nope, couldn't find it. I'm pretty sure it was a YouTube video, but I can't find anything, and the only cam hack videos I can find include everything but that area.

It never made sense to me until I saw the actual crushed body a couple days ago in the HD collection. That's when it clicked that the texts must have been swapped. I guess that's one thing the HD collection was good for. It semi-answered a nagging question I always had when playing SH3.

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Just played through the game again, and she does mention the body in the subway. She says, "Is someone sleeping here?" And mentions the blood. But the other part still doesn't make sense, since there's no body.

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The Japanese subtitle has Heather saying something like carrying another bottle would slow her down, and that neither her nor her dad likes alcohol all that much. I could never locate "the body must have been crushed" in Japanese anywhere else, though.

Burning Man wrote: ↑24 Dec 2021 The Japanese subtitle has Heather saying something like carrying another bottle would slow her down, and that neither her nor her dad likes alcohol all that much. I could never locate "the body must have been crushed" in Japanese anywhere else, though.

...BURNING MAN?!?!

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Hope everything's going well for you.

Burning Man wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021 Thanks for the warm welcome, Droo. Just stopped by to see how everyone was doing.
Hope everything's going well for you.

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EDIT:

Turns out "The body must have been crushed..." is an English-subtitle exclusive message resource "bug." None of the other subtitles have this problem, which includes Japanese, French, German, Italian, Spanish, and Korean. Those six subtitles all say that carrying more bottles would slow her down and neither Harry nor she likes alcohol all that much.

The English resource file has entry 0x22 and 0x23 duplicated in the Sewer Upper message resource file. The other localized resource files have 0x22 which has the equivalent for "The body must have been crushed..." but 0x23 has the "carrying more bottles would slow her down" message.

>Those six subtitles all say that carrying more bottles would slow her down and neither Harry nor she likes alcohol all that much.<
Interesting that she says Harry doesn't like alcohol yet there he is with late-stage liver cancer.

Is alcohol the only cause of that?

There are several causes. Hepatitis B/C, obesity, and smoking are also factors. Alcohol abuse is the most common, though.

Maybe walking around a hellish dimension has repercussions in your body...

Well, some people are just more unlucky than others. Doesn't matter how healthy they are, they still get a lousy deal in life.

At least Travis made it out all right.

The Adversary wrote: ↑21 Jul 2023 At least Travis made it out all right.

Unless one interprets his appearance in Foggy Shepherd's Glenn as indicative that he ended up trapped endlessly outside of reality a la Rose DeSilva.

I suppose it's possible, in a Howard sort of way, making more deliveries to Silent Hill, picking up hitchhikers and taking them to town.

I'd buy it more if it hadn't already been indicated Laura came with Eddie.

What does Laura coming with Eddie have to do with whether Travis truly made it out of Silent Hill's realm?

I'm saying, in this scenario where Travis is so-called trapped, he could have been the one who picked up Eddie and Laura and took them to Silent Hill, as a sort of delivery guy for the town.

My thinking is you already have to be out of reality to encounter Travis. Eddie and Laura came to town together from the real world. Alex has been out of reality since his escape from Alchemilla.

Wasn't the "trapped in Silent Hill forever" aspect conceptualized in Downpour? I am not a fan of the idea that Silent Hill is the theologican version of limbo before death. Seems like the later developers simply took the religious symbolism a bit too far.