Producer email: SHR likely a 2013 release

[rm2kking]

I honestly don't care if it's bad. Many people think the first Silent Hill movie was horrible, but I like it. I'm sure I'll like at least something about Revelation. I'm not expecting to dislike it, in other words.

[Trauma_]

He said that the development team intended to make Silent Hill a masterpiece rather than a traditional sales-oriented game, and that they opted for an engaging story, which would persist over time – similar to successful literature.

Holy shit. An honest to jeebus citation. AuraTwilight, I think this makes your argument invalid.

Holy shit, an honest to jeebus citation from a "source" that's easily editable, that reads like it was written by someone trying to downplay the newer games, and on top of that- it links to an article that isn't easily found and may not even exist at all. I think this makes your argument invalid

You like to whine a lot... I mean, wishing violence on a film production company for delaying a movie that you'll ultimately hate anyways? Whether you were joking or not, what are you... 13?

Anyways, the point of Aura's post was that you're kidding yourself if you don't think Team Silent were trying to make money off of their product.

[rm2kking]

Hey man I just read it and paraphrased it. It may be valid it may not be. If it is, then that's real cool, if it's not then oh well. I don't know who's argument you are talking about, as I was making none. I just think it's be great to see this movie sooner rather than later, but if I cannot, it can't be helped.

And obviously Konami and Team Silent were looking to make money too, but that wasn't the focus. They were trying to make a work of art. Art must be sold for the artist to make more art. I'm in art school, I know this, but it means more when the creator puts more into it than just hope for profit.

The point of my post was that it's great to have a game developer that cares about us fans. I was merely wishing the producers of the films had the same level of regard for us.

Also, I don't really think it's a question of validity here. It's more bantering back and forth with opinions and speculations.

[Trauma_]

I was mostly talking to WelcomeToNowhere with my post but I can definitely sympathize with you in regards to art school. Considering I'm right smack dab in the middle of that myself.

It's not like the creators of Origins and Homecoming where just looking for an excuse to roll in piles of money like many accuse them of though- they just had horrible luck and ended up making shoddy games.

But I do agree that pushing it forward is somewhat ridiculous,just for the sake of pushing it forward.

[WelcomeToNowhere]

^You seem to be taking the things a total stranger says on the internet seriously, Trauma_. I've never wished bodily harm on a film producer (Uwe Boll does not count, as he is a god-awful director), I don't really believe Silent Hill is only an art project and not a way to make money, too, and I do indeed think we landed on the moon in the '60s.

I'm doing my best to keep up the witty banter, and you're taking the fun out of all of it. Stop that. :/

Now, back on topic, a sooner release date is better. We have press exposure with the trainload of newer titles, one of which is ACTUALLY good, one of which is NOT, and one is unreleased but looks BAAAAAD. If they get it out there right now-ish, we'll get a bunch of people to see it, Lionsgate gets their money, and we get our movie.

EDIT: I never said I hated the first movie, either. I loved the first movie, and it was my first Silent Hill experience. It scared me, creeped the ever-loving shit out of me, and starred Radha Mitchell, who can do no wrong.

[AuraTwilight]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill#Design

Third paragraph. It was said by Takayoshi Sato.
Am I really one to make stuff up?

Oh cool, a wikipedia article that cites a Swedish article that doesn't exist anymore.

You haven't proven anything. And it's simply ignorant for one to say that money and artistic motives are at all antithetical to each other.

[rm2kking]

You haven't read my later posts, Aura, that's obvious.

Must I quote my entire last post?

Hey man I just read it and paraphrased it. It may be valid it may not be. If it is, then that's real cool, if it's not then oh well. I don't know who's argument you are talking about, as I was making none. I just think it's be great to see this movie sooner rather than later, but if I cannot, it can't be helped.

And obviously Konami and Team Silent were looking to make money too, but that wasn't the focus. They were trying to make a work of art. Art must be sold for the artist to make more art. I'm in art school, I know this, but it means more when the creator puts more into it than just hope for profit.

The point of my post was that it's great to have a game developer that cares about us fans. I was merely wishing the producers of the films had the same level of regard for us.

Also, I don't really think it's a question of validity here. It's more bantering back and forth with opinions and speculations.

[WelcomeToNowhere]

It's more a question of who can understand my fairly bizarre sense of humor. Some people do, some people... don't.

Konami... they don't really care about the fans as much anymore. They haven't since they dissolved Team Silent after the completion of Silent Hill 4, which they apparently did to ship the development off to other companies. That way, Konami makes money with less effort or risk.

[rm2kking]

Silent Hill's current producers seem to care about our opinions. They thanked Silent Hill Heaven in Downpour's credits. They change things when we complain. We got exclusive Shattered Memories Q&A with Tomm Hulett. That's what I'm talking about.

Artists need to make money. Everybody needs to make money. But art should be about art first, and I consider Silent Hill to be art.

[Trauma_]

^You seem to be taking the things a total stranger says on the internet seriously

Maybe you do have an "edgy" or "bizarre" sense of humor .Or simply that you need to grow up?

[VIVIsect]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill#Design

Third paragraph. It was said by Takayoshi Sato.
Am I really one to make stuff up?

Oh cool, a wikipedia article that cites a Swedish article that doesn't exist anymore.

You haven't proven anything. And it's simply ignorant for one to say that money and artistic motives are at all antithetical to each other.

I may be wrong, but I assume the Wikipedia article is referencing this interview with Sato:

"Usually there are many people to satisfy in game development. When there’s too many cooks in the kitchen, you get products that lack focus, have no edge and are simply boring. But Silent Hill 1 became very successful and I got three awards for it. That allowed me to pursue my own creative vision. Now I realize that that was a very rare situation. But it offered me a chance to prove that a highly artistic project can sell without any particular marketing elements. I am more interested in profound artwork that remains in people’s hearts for a long time than quick money-raking products. I thought that if Silent Hill 2 remained a masterpiece for a long time, its profits would exceed major products eventually. Hit products tend to be born like this: simply as the result of someone’s creative pursuit."

[AuraTwilight]

You haven't read my later posts, Aura, that's obvious.

I did, I just didn't give a shit about it. It really wasn't relevant to what I was specifically addressing.

I thought that if Silent Hill 2 remained a masterpiece for a long time, its profits would exceed major products eventually.

This speaks wonders.

[VenusDoom]

Silent Hill's current producers seem to care about our opinions. They thanked Silent Hill Heaven in Downpour's credits. They change things when we complain. We got exclusive Shattered Memories Q&A with Tomm Hulett. That's what I'm talking about.

Artists need to make money. Everybody needs to make money. But art should be about art first, and I consider Silent Hill to be art.

These are movie studio producers. Not game producers. I doubt Konami has much say in anything regarding the movies.

It's more a question of who can understand my fairly bizarre sense of humor. Some people do, some people... don't.

Konami... they don't really care about the fans as much anymore. They haven't since they dissolved Team Silent after the completion of Silent Hill 4, which they apparently did to ship the development off to other companies. That way, Konami makes money with less effort or risk.

Konami DOES appreciate us as fans. Go watch the credits of Downpour, Shattered Memories, Origins, look at what Tomm's posted on here, what Tom Waltz has posted on here. There was never even a team silent either.

[Mephisto]

^ It depends.

Some of the people who are involved directly with the media (games, comics) do care about the fanbase but those who manage the bills (i.e the big bad boy Konami who produce the big franchises and delegate chores) doesn't even acknowledge, or think, anything about us.

This sort of feedback is quite normal in the industry. By getting in contact with the fandom, those who work with the games for example, can extract ideas and even share others.

The others don't need that sort of thing because it's not important for them. They just want to make a series die of old age instead of disease to eventually produce more children to get more cash. It always happened and it will always happen.

[Droo]

Keep it civil, everyone. My banhammer has gotten rather dusty and I would love to use it again.

On topic: January. Ouch. People are right when they say that is dumping ground for crappy movies. On the plus side, the lack of competition means it could turn a decent profit.

[Numb Body01]

The Devil Inside managed that pretty well earlier this year. We'll see I guess.

[WelcomeToNowhere]

^Yeah, but The Devil Inside was awful! It didn't make a whole lot of sense, the acting was as wooden as a stump, and it ended on a cliffhanger that did nothing but piss me off. It only proves that January is the toxic waste dump of movies, barring a rare exception or two.

Hopefully, it'll come out sometime in the late summer or midfall, so it doesn't get thrown in the month release garbage bin.

Trauma, please stop being mean to me. It's unprofessional.

[Yuki]

^Yeah, but The Devil Inside was awful! It didn't make a whole lot of sense, the acting was as wooden as a stump, and it ended on a cliffhanger that did nothing but piss me off. It only proves that January is the toxic waste dump of movies, barring a rare exception or two.

How does January being a place for movies that people know probably won't do well automatically mean Revelation is bad? We already know chances are it won't do too well in the theatres.

[WelcomeToNowhere]

^I never said I thought SH:R would be bad! What I mean is, the common association of "January Movies = Bad Movies" could turn people off from wanting to watch it. If they assign SH:R a better place for a release date, the film might get better money than otherwise, since it avoids the whole shitty-movie shitty-slot thing.

Besides that, the first Silent Hill movie was great, let no-one tell you otherwise. ^-^

[DistantJ]

None of Bassett's films have done particularly well or been given good treatment by the studios, but all of them have been fantastic movies with cult followings. I can imagine this being equally cult. It's just a shame that they aren't giving it a chance to do well because, of course, if it does well there'd be a Silent Hill 3, and 4, and so-on, and there are so many great SH stories that deserve to be told to non-gamers, or even new, movie-only stories (and I want Tom Waltz to get the chance to write them).

Anyway, the e-mail said 'still deciding', so we know nothing so far. Perhaps with enough demand they can be convinced to give it better treatment...