SH4: Keeping Eileen alive for dummies, please?

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SH4: Keeping Eileen alive for dummies, please?

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Okay so, I've gotten the 21 Sacraments and Eileen's Death endings, since they're my favourites, and now I'm ready to set out getting the other ones I realize that...I really am no good at keeping the poor girl out of harm's way.

Does anyone have any tips for someone who's absolutely terrible at escort missions (IE half the game) about keeping Miss Galvin out of that shredder?

I've just been more-or-less ignoring her on my previous runs, once even beating her intentionally so she'd be possessed enough to read Walter's diary entries in the Forest World. xD
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Subway World: After you climb down the ladder don't pick Eyleen again until you've finished everything in the world (Pin Cynthia, kill the most annoying creatures and activate the subway car)... After you do this you can return for Eyleen (If you accidentally enter pick her again just climb down the ladder again so she'll be stuck in the little and safe room)

Forest World: After you reach the middle section of the world (Where the burned building and the creepy doll are) just run the faster you can to any of the doors... If you did well Eyleen will get locked and totally safe in the middle section... After you get all the doll parts you can join her again...

Prison World: You must be sure that Eyleen hasn't any equipped weapon... You must escape from Walter but you can't run too fast or Eyleen will get locked with Walter... After Henry and Eyleen enter to the prison section you just have to enter to any cell with a hole... Jump down the hole and Eyleen will get locked and safe again, just picke her up after yopu finish your errands...

Building World: I can't remember the exact point where I always locked Eyleen here but you get the idea... Find a creature free location and try to lock the girl there; just pick her again when you are ready to advance to the next world...
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Ooh, that's very useful, thank you. The outside section of the Prison World seems difficult though, Eileen NEVER seems to want to follow me properly when Walter's trying to shoot both our heads off. x_x

Sounds like a lot of backtracking though, what a pain!
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If Eyleen has any weapon equipped in the outside section of the prison she will rush to Wally and attack him; the backtracking isn't big deal, it's just a little detour that gives you a happy and healthy Eyleen...

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Here are the safe locations where you can drop Eyleen...
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Always leave Eileen bare handed.
Always walk when you' re around her : running into her is the same as hitting her.

There' s a trick that worked well for me in the Prison World : when you have to get Eileen all the way down in the exterior part DON' T WAIT FOR HER ! Leave her bare handed and use the ladders to get all the way down : half of the flies will attack you instead of her and you' ll be free to whack them without hurting Eileen. Eileen is quicker when
she' s trying to catch up. When Walter' s around stay close to the nearest ladder. If he comes too close and starts shooting Henry then climb the ladder. Wait for him to start circling the other way around to reach you, then get down the ladder again. Playing hide and seek with him spares Eileen a lot of damage.

There' s also a neat trick in Building World part two : it prevents Eileen from getting hurt and also allows Henry to skip half of what he should otherwise do. I can' t claim that one, I read it in a Gamefaqs guide written by merciless101. I' ll just cut and paste that part of his 10 stars ranking guide :

Ah! The Building world part 2. This area has a secret to it
that will take you 10 minutes to pass. So let's start. I'll
write it step-by-step.

1. Skip the cutscene and get the memo that's on the floor.

2. Enter the elevator ignoring Richard Braintree.

3. Go to the bottom floor.

4. Grab the PISTOL BULLETS and go to the opposite side. Take
the HOLY CANDLE here and get Eileen stuck in the corner.
NOW HURRY TO THE ELEVATOR AND MAKE SURE EILEEN HASN'T FOLLOWED
YOU.
If you get inside Elevator without Eileen then this trick has
worked, if not keep trying STEP 4 until Eileen isn't inside
the elevator.

5. When you're inside the elevator go down the ladder that
is in front of you.

6. You should be at the sewer now. Kill the WHITESTOOLS that
are in your way and go up the ladder. IGNORE THE CUE BALL.

7. Follow the path and a cutscene will show. Skip the cutscene.

8. Pick up the MED-KIT if you're low on health or you don't
have enough health items. Keep going along the path until you've
come to the next area.

9. DON'T MOVE, EILEEN'S COMING. When she joins you go a little
furthur and enter the door. IGNORE THE VOLLEYBALL.

10. Go down the stairs. Don't try to waste time on the wheelchairs
because they'll come after you even if you've hit them a thousand
time. Enter the door that is under the stairs.

11. Go down the stairs and enter the only door that is open.

12. Read the memo on the bar table and head for the door.

13. Put 4890 as the code.

14. Go all the way down the stairs killing the bee-bats that come
in your way. At the bottom, take the MED-KIT if necessary and enter
the door.

15. Skip the cutscene. Find the real dummy and hit it until it has
died.

16. Enter the door that you have just unlocked and you'll be back
in the spiral staircase.


And that is the end of the BUILDING WORLD. This should only take you
at least 10 minutes.
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Oooh, lots of helpful stuff.

All those techniques for the water prison world are reallllly confusing, though. x__x;; And actually NOT running into her? xD But I'm so impatient!
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KageReneko wrote:Subway World: After you climb down the ladder don't pick Eyleen again until you've finished everything in the world (Pin Cynthia, kill the most annoying creatures and activate the subway car)... After you do this you can return for Eyleen (If you accidentally enter pick her again just climb down the ladder again so she'll be stuck in the little and safe room)

Forest World: After you reach the middle section of the world (Where the burned building and the creepy doll are) just run the faster you can to any of the doors... If you did well Eyleen will get locked and totally safe in the middle section... After you get all the doll parts you can join her again...

Prison World: You must be sure that Eyleen hasn't any equipped weapon... You must escape from Walter but you can't run too fast or Eyleen will get locked with Walter... After Henry and Eyleen enter to the prison section you just have to enter to any cell with a hole... Jump down the hole and Eyleen will get locked and safe again, just picke her up after yopu finish your errands...
Enter the elevator, and climb down the ladder. Eileen will stay in elevator one, while you use the second one to get through the rest of the level
Building World: I can't remember the exact point where I always locked Eyleen here but you get the idea... Find a creature free location and try to lock the girl there; just pick her again when you are ready to advance to the next world...
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All those techniques for the water prison world are reallllly confusing, though. x__x
Well try reading this when you are actually playing in that level. If you don' t visualise the place I' m talking about my explanations are probably confusing. I' m talking about the place that Henry enters at 04:18 in this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft1ndLwWXbg
At 06:53 he jumps in a hole of the top floor, leaving Eileen there.
In this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JiZTlEs ... re=related Henry did everything he had to do in the Prison World and got back all the way up to pick up Eileen and finally exit the level. When he leaves that floor with Eileen he ends up in the room I was talking about and does exactly what I told you to do (01:32).
And actually NOT running into her? xD But I'm so impatient!
Think about it this way : if you don' t find the patience to walk when you' re around her then you' ll have to find the patience to play the game all over again ! ^^
Which reminds me (you' re so not gonna like this) : you' ll have to walk whenever Eileen' s following you, unless there' s monsters in the room. If she keeps complaining that you' re going to fast she' ll end up possessed much more easily.
Hellooooooo endless circling stairs ! ^^
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Hmmmm... All hints I will definitely try next time I play SH4, I have an issue keeping Eileen healthy too lol. I'm sure lots of members will find this useful :)
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I don't know if it was just me but I noticed even in safe place , if you leave her too long she still gets possessed slowly
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I never had a problem with keeping her alive during the game and I've always done it along the opposite of all that lol
My main problem -and what I thought this thread is about- was to keep her alive in the final battle to get a different ending, she always dies there and I gave up on it long ago :(
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