Eileen's acts....

Post by **Glazarus** » 30 Jan 2006

People can feel attraction to someone else just because of their looks.
That happens all the time... she might have seen him a couple of times and nodded "hi" in a hallway, but she could still find him attractive...

Hell, there are plenty of girls on this forum that like Henry, even if he doesn't show much of himself to the player.

She might have been there to ask him to go to the party with her... why couldn't she?

The confusion in the hospital might not be because she view him as a stranger...
As soon as she see who he is, she calms down. What she shows is an after shock, which I don't find very odd.

Anyway... She says what she says infront of Henrys door and that is a big hint of it all. She might have been interested in knowing him better... whats so strange about that?
They still get interested in eachother along the way in the game... so why can't there be a possibility that they both were a little attracted to eachother? They both show some "hints" on it, before they met in the middle of the game...

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 30 Jan 2006

I guess I just don't see it. Eileen's interest seemed nonexistant or at the very least minimal until she joined Henry's company.

Post by **Glazarus** » 30 Jan 2006

Finding interest is a pretty controlable feeling... attraction is like an instinct.
It's subtle and does not reveal itself until you confront the subject.

Why did Eileen walk to Henry's door? Why did she say "hope my luck change before the party" - looking at the door to Henry's apartment.
She wasn't at the porn guys apartment, thats for sure...

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 30 Jan 2006

I don't think she was hoping that Henry would go to a party with her as a means of changing her luck. Didn't she drop something made of glass to prompt such a scene? To me that's what the "luck" line as referring to.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » 30 Jan 2006

I don't understand why we're practically writing shipper fiction. A tale of Eileen's unrequited love for her next-door neighbour. If such a thing were true, it would be hinted at - but instead, Eileen herself states that she "know's his name and face, but that's about it".

Not sure if you guys have ever lived in a block of flats (or 'apartment building') before, but you don't necessarily have to get on with, or even know, your neighbours.

Post by **Glazarus** » 30 Jan 2006

Krist. wrote:I don't think she was hoping that Henry would go to a party with her as a means of changing her luck. Didn't she drop something made of glass to prompt such a scene? To me that's what the "luck" line as referring to.

She refers to that "drop" as the unluck. Then she looks at the door saying she hopes her luck changes before the party. I have always read that line as a line that was directed to Henry (in a subtle way). AND, she had no purpose going to that door after buying food, other then trying to contact Henry.

When writing a script, every line should have a subtext, an underlying meaning. Every line must tell something important. If she only refers to what she dropped, it's pretty sloppy written.
I don't see why teamsilent would keep a line that has no purpose...

Stop seeing everything in black and white... just because she may be interested or attracted by Henry, doesn't mean she's totally in love with him. I 'm saying that an attraction can exist from both sides.... Henry shows that in his voyeristic behaviour.
To have them fall in love in the cource of time from the time they actually meet, is pretty sloppy written too... I think they had some interest in each other without expressing it wide open, long before these events.
Especially when they probably are the only "normal" people in that apartment complex.

Post by **The Adversary** » 30 Jan 2006

>If she only refers to what she dropped, it's pretty sloppy written.
What... the... hell...?

Post by **Glazarus** » 30 Jan 2006

the Adversary wrote:>If she only refers to what she dropped, it's pretty sloppy written.
What... the... hell...?

What I mean is that it hasn't any importance to the story, so it would be badly written if that line is only because of what she droppes... also, The way she looks at the door and the way she says the line "change luck before party", isn' at all meaning " Oh, I hope I don't drop more before the party".

THe whole "girl next door" is a big thing in this game. The porn guy is there as a reference to the famous "girl next door". It has to do with the voyeur part of the game.
It makes perfect sense that she COULD be interested and "ATTRACTED" by Henry, even if they don't know eachother very well. Henry seems very interested in Eileen, thats for sure...

The whole point is about Eileen being interested in Henry before the events we see.
It has many hints to it.

Every line must tell something of importance... every conversation must lead somewhere.
If she should have been there just for a presentation of the character, they could have brought in a conversation about 302 or having her cleaning the floor...

I find it really interesting that some people just can't understand that something is a possibility, as soon as something differs from what their POV of the game.
There are hints to attraction, so you can't say it isn't true.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right, but I honestly never stand up and say "My theory is da truth".

Post by **The Adversary** » 31 Jan 2006

>There are hints to attraction, so you can't say it isn't true.
Henry being attracted to Eileen, yes. There's no indication of Eileen being attracted to Henry.

Post by **emptimass** » 31 Jan 2006

Henry being attracted to Eileen, yes. There's no indication of Eileen being attracted to Henry.

The only hint that I found was when she stopped by Henry's door and made
a comment about needing a date for the party. I assumed always that she had
Henry in mind though that may have been a last resort option. Who the hell knows?

Post by **The Adversary** » 31 Jan 2006

She never comments about "needing a date," unless it's in a secret cut-scene I've never heard.

Post by **Glazarus** » 31 Jan 2006

You seriously see things in black and white huh?

Then explain why she goes to Henrys door after being out? Why she goes to his door and talks "to" it. It's funny how you in this case must have her spelling out "need a date" to even think of it as a possibility, while other theories need much less credibility. The hints are in the acting, not in some article or direct info.

Post by **emptimass** » 31 Jan 2006

^She never comments about "needing a date," unless it's in a secret cut-scene I've never heard.

Trust me. It is there. I have beaten the game multiple times just saw
my girl get to that scene like 3 days ago. There are many minor indications
such as Glazarus stated as well.

Post by **Jedah** » 31 Jan 2006

I also believe she was referring to a â€œdateâ€ or a â€œspecial someoneâ€ as for her saying about her luck changing soon when the party comes. Whether she meant Henry directly or just the possibility of her meeting someone else in that party is another story. But keep in mind she was worried about him, thus the reason why she tries several times (even contacting Frank) to get in touch with Henry. If she absolutely didn't cared at all about Henry, she wouldnâ€™t even be trying to get in touch with him or be wondering why she hasn't seen him for the last couple of days.

Post by **The Adversary** » 31 Jan 2006

She's concerned because the same thing happened to the previous resident, Joseph Schreiber.

> Trust me. It is there.
Okay. When & where?

Post by **Mis Krist.** » 31 Jan 2006

"If she absolutely didn't cared at all about Henry, she wouldnâ€™t even be trying to get in touch with him or be wondering why she hasn't seen him for the last couple of days."

Eileen wasn't trying to get in touch with him. She sent him no notes, didn't knock on his door, didn't call to him from outside, didn't linger around waiting and pacing. Where did you get that idea? Nor did she make any mention of why she hadn't seen Henry. Where does she say this?

Eileen's "worry" stems from the fact that Joseph disappeared the same way in that same room, if she has any worry or concern at all. Also she's hearing strange noises from that room--which she says. I'd be curious, too. Worried? Not so much, since Henry's a stranger to her. Richard and Frank display more interest in where Henry's gone than Eileen.

Why the hell is this turning into a huge debate? Eileen says it herself for God's sake--"I know his name and face, but that's about it." Not a lovelorn confession of unrequited affection, just a casual admission.

Post by **Loveless_Dogg** » 31 Jan 2006

Eileeen wasn't the only chick in the building. There was plenty of hot a$$ throughout the complex.

I don't think there was any implication of her feelings towards Henry until after he spent time with her. Also, it you notice there's no real reason for her to be in front of Henry's door at that time. The hallway exit it to the right Eileen's back. I'd say she was there for story, not to ask Henry out.

But that's me.

Post by **Jedah** » 31 Jan 2006

Krist. wrote:Why the hell is this turning into a huge debate? Eileen says it herself for God's sake--"I know his name and face, but that's about it." Not a lovelorn confession of unrequited affection, just a casual admission.

Because people see different things than you and your other lovely moderator friend do. Is it so wrong to disagree with both of you? I see in this whole forum it's a big waste of time for others to express their opinions, theories and points of views, simply because if no one agrees with what you or TA say, then were all dumb people, were not allowed to speak or think for ourselves, we donâ€™t play the game enough, we donâ€™t pay attention to details just because we donâ€™t see what you want us to see, were not perfect, but you and your friend are, after all you both can't be wrong right? They should rename this website from "SHH" to "Krist and TA SH".

People forget that the SH games are all psychological, and very open to perception and interpretation. Not everyone will perceive the same thing looking at the same picture.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=perception
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=interpretation

Having the moderator tag doesn't make you the official voice of reason or an SH guru know it all. You both are fans of the series, the same as every one of us who take the time to visit this forum and post to express ourselves and our ideas/theories. I'm tired of seen the same two people come up and bring down any person and their theories/ideas just because they don't coincide with what they want the rest of us to believe in. Canâ€™t we all agree to disagree? Canâ€™t we have and show respect to our fellow members by respecting their ideas and theories without flat out telling them their wrong that they donâ€™t play enough, or to stop posting?

PS. Iâ€™m very sorry to the rest of our forum members if I got out of topic for a bit in this post.

Post by **Matney X** » 31 Jan 2006

Maybe she's allergic to bees? And she found that out at a VERY young age. My sister was hospitilized at age 6 from a bee sting, and now she runs away like they're a fucking heat-sinking missile.

As for the broom... I don't know about you, but I don't watch where I walk nearly as much as I should... Maybe she was focusing on something on the other side of the room? A b-line for her iPod, before she heads out for the day?

Finally... laughing and clapping? Ever watch Dane Cook or Eddie Izzard? Enough said.

Ohh... dropping her bags... just having a bad day?

Other than the "Hen-ry Towns-hend", I don't think she's nearly as handicapped as you are labeling her as.

Post by **The Adversary** » 31 Jan 2006

We do show respect. Just because we disagree, does it mean we should change our beliefs as well? No, of course not. That'd be risible. However, I have every reason to discuss my beliefs when it differs from yours--or anyone elses.

>Canâ€™t we have and show respect to our fellow members by respecting their ideas and theories without flat out telling them their wrong that they donâ€™t play enough, or to stop posting?
No one here has ever said to "stop posting,"--in fact: we encourage it. If I feel someone is wrong, though, I'm not going to skirt-around the issue.

Oh. And you do realize other members disagree with the idea that Eileen had an emotional interest in Henry, right? Didn't bother saying anything about them, did you? Weird.

And please. My name isn't TA. It's the Adversary, or, God-forbid, Thomas.