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TheDamnChicken
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 15 Jul 2015 Notes left: 5
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Nisto
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 13 Oct 2012 Notes left: 360
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As for the first one, I have no idea about the source library, but if it helps any, I found it among the game data... https://www.sendspace.com/file/5my46wI do believe the second one has been found, but I can't quite remember... Maybe in one of the Cuckooland libraries?
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VIVIsect
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Missing since: 31 Jan 2004 Notes left: 3833
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I haven't checked, so I don't know for sure, but the first one is probably a snippet of a sample from the Nightingale Voice Box (Sound Ideas).
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jdnoidea9
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Missing since: 30 Jan 2015 Notes left: 27
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Should anyone come across this sample Or any of theseOr these awesome samples Please shout me the name of the library they come from (if they do come from a sample library)  Thanks guys, keep up the good work!
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peronmls
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 08 Aug 2011 Notes left: 922 Last seen at: Ohio
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TheDamnChicken wrote: Hey guys, have anyone found the breathing samples that are used in "On Corticosteroids", and "Leonard Theme"? On Corticosteroids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9cU3I8Ql9MLeonard Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeeUrA9WnZEEdit: Nisto found some nightmare fuel. I'm very (dis)pleased. I'm not sure why these sounds gets to me. I wanna find the nurse breathing sample too. Along with other monster sounds.
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Nisto
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 13 Oct 2012 Notes left: 360
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Okay, I know it was kinda already discovered that he used the Mellotron CD for KILLING TIME, but I've been curious which exact samples were used. So I'll post what I manage to figure out.
The first two high notes are quite interesting to me in terms of music theory, because the samples are actually an octave apart, but when played together, it sounds (to me anyway) like they're only one or two semitones apart. Very cool.
Silent Hill Track: KILLING TIME Sample Library: Mellotron Archives: Mellotron Sample Name: D3GUITAR Time of Sample: first high note
Silent Hill Track: KILLING TIME Sample Library: Mellotron Archives: Mellotron Sample Name: D4GUITAR Time of Sample: second high note
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VIVIsect
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 31 Jan 2004 Notes left: 3833
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Does anyone have Dance Pack Vol. 1 from Zero-G? It includes a version of Return To The Planet Of The Breaks that, according to the website, has 260 samples. That's a lot more than the version of the library that they sell alone. The REX version that I have has half of that. I'm still looking for the second beat used in Breeze - in Monochrome Night, which I think might be a variation of the main beat (which is found in Return To The Planet Of The Breaks). Maybe it's in that Dance Pack?
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Nisto
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Missing since: 13 Oct 2012 Notes left: 360
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Wasn't that library released after SH3 though?
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VIVIsect
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The Dance Pack library/compilation was, but I'm thinking that it includes more material from the original 2001-2002 CD release of Return To The Planet Of The Breaks than what is included in the version that is currently being sold by Zero-G.
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Nisto
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Ah, I see. I did find a GarageBand release, but I'm not sure what that really is.. ? Speaking of Breeze, does anyone know the source of the piano? Or where I might find something similar? I have been playing around with 1920 Upright Piano from SampleTank for a while, but I can't get it to sound as rich as the original, despite lots of tweaking in EQs, ADSR, adding reverb, flange effects, etc. My result just sounds so thin in comparison. In the original, when the piano first comes in, at about 1:30, it sounds almost electric (bad description). Maybe I'm missing a layer of notes or something? Currently, I just go F#4 -> A-4 -> B-4 -> C#5 for that very first part. Also, it kinda sounds like there's 4 notes on the next chord, but I could really only discern 3: C#5 -> D-5 -> E-5 ... am I missing something? Original (sliced): https://clyp.it/byv2wuqjRecreation: https://clyp.it/koojpzvqAny ideas would be appreciated!
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TheDamnChicken
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Missing since: 15 Jul 2015 Notes left: 5
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To me it sounds like you use too much dry, and your drums are more pronounced in mid/low. Maybe try LP below 30hz with a smooth curve? Frankly both versions are really good. 
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VIVIsect
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I was able to get the Zero-G Dance Pack. The version of Return To The Planet Of The Breaks that is included contains a bunch of different loop variations that aren't included in the version that I have. Unfortunately, it only contains the uptempo beats. So, the "gtrspill" beats aren't there. Ugh. Why do you do this to me, Zero-G?
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Nisto
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 13 Oct 2012 Notes left: 360
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Hmm, wait, my version of Return to the Planet of the Breaks has both REX and WAV files, with "ambient", "dry" and "full" variations and there's 5 different versions of Guitar Spill. Is that what you had originally as well? The drumloop for Breeze is the second version, "gtrspill_2", which actually does sound significantly different from the other 4 loops imo. Nevertheless, the second drumloop of Breeze is not in my version either, as far as I can tell.
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VIVIsect
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 31 Jan 2004 Notes left: 3833
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I have the five variations of the gtrspill beat. I was just hoping that there were more variations out there. Like, you know how the download versions of some of these old libraries are stripped down versions of the original physical CD releases? Maybe more of those original samples ended up in a different version of the same library. Zero-G is bad about that. But as far as I can tell, the Return to the Planet of the Breaks that is included in the Dance Pack is the same as the ProSamples "Breakbeat 3" version, and neither of those contain the gtrspill loops at all.
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Avith
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Missing since: 25 Jun 2012 Notes left: 60
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So much time without posting lol Silent Hill 2 Track: "Prison of the Mind"Sample Library: Distorted Reality 2 Sample Name: Water Tanks Time of sample: 0:00 Silent Hill 4 Track: "Tender Sugar - Empire Mix"Sample Library: 160 The drum&bass interface Sample Name: 42-7 Time of sample: 0:28 Not sure about this one but it sounds very similar, maybe it was edited, there is even some reverb added: Silent Hill 3 Track: "First monster encounter cutscene"Sample Library: Evil Fx Sample Name: CD3 - Track 70 Time of sample: 7:59 (of the video)
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Nisto
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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I think the regulars still check in at least once in a while even if we don't have much to contribute.. anymore.. sadly  Anyway, nice find. It's one of those samples that could be anywhere, ugh!
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darclord
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 07 Sep 2016 Notes left: 1
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Hello I was curious if it is allowed to use these samples in a product. Like if we wanted to make horror game, and use the samples to make music. They are royalty free, so I am guessing yes. But, I just wanted to make sure.
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VIVIsect
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 31 Jan 2004 Notes left: 3833
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darclord wrote: Hello I was curious if it is allowed to use these samples in a product. Like if we wanted to make horror game, and use the samples to make music. They are royalty free, so I am guessing yes. But, I just wanted to make sure. Well, legally, you would need to obtain a license, i.e., you'd need to actually purchase them in order to use them in any commercial work. "Royalty free" just means that you wouldn't have to continually pay to use them in your work.
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asd
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 30 Jan 2017 Notes left: 4
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Hey guys, VIVIsect and peronmls and others, firstly thanks for all of your tremendous work.
I have a very particular question you may be able to help me with Any ideas on what drum libraries were used in SH2-4? Mostly SH2 Overdose Delusion, Love Psalm, Promise, Angel's Thanatos are all feature the same fills and hat loops(or hits), snares sound identical too. SH3 You're not here SH4 Waiting For you, especially snares from Tender Sugar AND Cradle of forest, they sound similar aswell I'm mainly interested in raw tones like snare from Cradle of forest, it has this distinct character and ring and I don't find this kind of snares in modern sample libraries. those wide stereo hats sound nice too. I thought maybe its BFD1 or some of the expansions but it could be some Loop libs from BFA or Zero-G, you guys know better I'm sure.
I don't think these are loops though(like vynil break stuff he uses), seems like there are some different sounding fills here and there but the main drums in all of the songs feel programmed
Any info on drum tones he used would be HUGELY appreciated.
ps secondly, is there any current archive with all the samples? I downloaded one from the first post but seems like its not everything discussed in the thread?
Thanks again
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VIVIsect
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Post subject: Re: Samples used by Akira Yamaoka |
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Missing since: 31 Jan 2004 Notes left: 3833
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The "live" drums on all of those rock-type songs are really hard to place. I know that Akira Yamaoka can actually play drums. I've seen videos of him on drums, jamming with Joe Romersa. But I would guess that the drum tracks on all of those songs were probably programmed.
I know that Yamaoka uses Superior Drummer from Toontrack now (I've seen studio photos with the Superior Drummer VST pulled up on a computer monitor). These days, I use Addictive Drums, but I used to use Superior Drummer fairly regularly for my own music. With a little tweaking, I could get it pretty close to sounding like those Silent Hill tracks. I actually thought about bringing it up in this thread! No idea if that's what he was actually using back then, though. He could have actually used a real drum set for all I know. Sorry that I can't be of more help!
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