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My Bestsellers Clerk
 Post subject: joseph meeting henry (little bit of spoilers)
     
         
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Missing since: 01 May 2005
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Last seen at: On a rusty Rollercoaster ride
when henry meets joseph in his appartment you can see ghost candles all over the appartment. aren`t those of use to scare ghost away? so why can yoseph appear without fainting (like other ghosts) and just tell his story? maybe joseph isn`t really a ghost then...

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Missing since: 16 Nov 2005
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Last seen at: Southeast of Greenwich...somewhere sandy.
There was no real explaination for Josephs' death. Simply put, he
disappeared. This may also be one of those SH unexplained things that
will be cause of endless threads. Joseph was not a fiend spirit. He seemed
to be a positive energy as in he was not out for blood. Joseph also
was not a "Victim". In my opinion, which is merely speculation, the Victims
are slaves to Walter's dream world, hence being negative spirits. There
is no exact definiton as to what the Holy candle repels but I feel that it
is negative energy. Joseph seemed like a positive spirit............with
news of doom and gloom. :twisted:

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My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 13 Nov 2005
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Last seen at: Teen Town
It was also Joseph's old apartment.

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Missing since: 05 Jul 2005
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Last seen at: Plus Forty Seven Degrees 56' 37" Minus Sixteen Degrees 51' 08"
Yes. He´s not a regular victim like the others, because he was trying to search for the truth of the Walter Sullivan story. His resistance against him, turned him into a "super ghost" :) .

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Missing since: 01 Mar 2004
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Last seen at: Waco, Texas
I'd say more or less, since he went willingly into the cold bearing arms of death, he wasn't limited to the hinderings of all the other victims.

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i dont really know but i belive joseph dies at the credits were you see the face in the wall at the begining!!


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Missing since: 09 Jun 2005
Notes left: 7464
Last seen at: Kentucky
The topics about when Joseph meets Henry....

Not the beginning of the game.


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"hmm creepy looks like a face"
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he has lots of notes in his bedroom
and its pretty weird what he wrote


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 12 Feb 2006
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Last seen at: Devon
Piranha wrote:
Yes. He´s not a regular victim like the others, because he was trying to search for the truth of the Walter Sullivan story. His resistance against him, turned him into a "super ghost" :) .


thats pretty much how i would put it. its because he was so determined to stop walter, and that he gave up himself that he managed to keep his conciousness, and is trapped in his old room forever.
must get really boring... at least the other ghosts can float around and chase people

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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Missing since: 08 Apr 2009
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Last seen at: In the BUGHOUSE.
Benign may be the word you're looking for to describe him. But yeah, I got really annoyed with Joe's "Kill him...kill him...kill him"s.


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Missing since: 15 Apr 2004
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If I have to go by what I've seen tonight, your post count of 33 consists of roughly 16.5 unique posts.

And 33 of them are in direct response to messages posted in the first half of Bush's second term.

Certainly there are more recent topics worthy of your double input.

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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Missing since: 08 Apr 2009
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Last seen at: In the BUGHOUSE.
alone in the town wrote:
If I have to go by what I've seen tonight, your post count of 33 consists of roughly 16.5 unique posts.

And 33 of them are in direct response to messages posted in the first half of Bush's second term.

Certainly there are more recent topics worthy of your double input.


Oops.

Sorry, I haven't really been noticing the date of the last response. I'll try to keep to the newer threads.


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Missing since: 06 Mar 2008
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Jospeh's resistance had nothing to do w/ him becoming a super ghost. Walter intended to keep him conscious, otherwise Joseph wouldn't be able to turn Henry into the Receiver of Wisdom - which was one fundamental requirement for the ritual to succeed. It's all part of Walter's plan.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 23 Jul 2009
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I would also say that is was part if Walter's plan.
I mean, c'mon, nothing else makes sense.
If it wasn't for Joseph, Walter would have been pretty screwed with the ritual.


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I think Jospeh is actually dead, you start to talk to him in the apartment second time to unlock the chains, everytime he finish talking, he dissapear, and to look for him in the second place, that improves that he is a ghost, so he is already dead, the holly candle low the spirits' power and make them weak but it doesn't mean to kill them though, or kick them away, they will always return back... :shock:


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Missing since: 01 Aug 2006
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Yea, everyone knows he's already dead, Raider, he's the Giver of Wisdom Sacrament.

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Missing since: 27 Aug 2003
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I also think the whole "lack of a body, I pop out of the ceiling" thing indicates he's not alive anymore.

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i think joseph is just trapped in walters world not dead but he appears fused with the room in the descent of the holy mother theres no mention of the giver of wisdom

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My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 03 May 2009
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Maybe because Joseph is the "Giver of wisdom" of some sorts, as his memos help Henry find out more about Walter...so I guess that makes him a simple ghost for Henry rather than hauntings.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 06 Aug 2009
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Last seen at: South Beloit, IL
helldescent wrote:
i think joseph is just trapped in walters world not dead but he appears fused with the room in the descent of the holy mother theres no mention of the giver of wisdom


Yes, there is mention of it, and yes, Joseph is dead. He has to be, since he's the 15th Sacrament and only Henry and Eileen are still alive.


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