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Cafe5to2 Waitress
 Post subject: Motel Room Peep Hole.
     
         
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Missing since: 16 Aug 2005
Notes left: 157
Last seen at: Reading, PA
The one that you look into and you see a needle on the table and hear, presumably

[spoiler]Lisa and Dr. Kaufmann having sex[/spoiler]

was my favorite moment of the game thus far. There's something so creepy about it, it seems to culminate their relationship of dependence and reveals her drug-induced duality. Call me a voyeur if you will, but I felt it was powerful stuff. Easily one of my favorite Silent Hill moments.


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 31 Oct 2006
Notes left: 93
Last seen at: WV
As a *huge* Lisa fan, I found it pretty disgusting.
Although as a whole I found the walking down the hallway and peeping into the motel rooms very creepy, and awesome. I was kind of expecting to peek into a room and see a Robbie the Rabbit plush.


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 10 Nov 2006
Notes left: 71
Last seen at: Silent Adan
I thought that Kaufmann is giving Lisa a shot. When I saw the PVT on the table later on I soon realized that he gave her a shot, not had sex with her...

Any other comments?
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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 31 Oct 2006
Notes left: 93
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They had sex. That's why you overhear Lisa giggling, and walk in on them sitting on the bed getting dressed.


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 14 Jan 2004
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Last seen at: Moon base #25
Silent Pyramid wrote:
I thought that Kaufmann is giving Lisa a shot. When I saw the PVT on the table later on I soon realized that he gave her a shot, not had sex with her...

Any other comments?
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dude... you can hear them having sex. both when your looking through the peep hole and see her red jaket and a needle, then when your about to jump down the hole that leads to the room.
On top of that when you walk in on them there finishing dresing..........

Anyway like i said befor i think the only reson she did it was for the drugs. I dont think she liked kaufmann at all, she just wanted/needed the drugs

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 10 Nov 2006
Notes left: 71
Last seen at: Silent Adan
sh#1fan wrote:
Anyway like i said befor i think the only reson she did it was for the drugs. I dont think she liked kaufmann at all, she just wanted/needed the drugs.


I totally agree with you! :o


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Gravedigger
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Missing since: 22 Apr 2006
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Personally, my new favorite SH moment of the game was when you looked through the peephole, and you saw
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The Butcher standing in the room with the mirror and the walls that were drawn all over. I freaked out, spazzed a bit, looked back again, and freaked out even more when I realized that he was gone.
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I seriously haven't been that scared with a Silent Hill game since seeing Pyramid Head through the grate in the Apartments in SH2.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 14 Jan 2004
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Last seen at: Moon base #25
meh~

I thought that was dum, to try and add a new version a PH was pointless... let PH RIP

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Brookhaven Receptionist
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Missing since: 10 Apr 2006
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Last seen at: Zanesville Ohio
The Butcher represents a figure from Travis's past, perhaps a figure that frightened Travis as a child. I know i mentioned it in another thread.. but I felt it was worth mentioning.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 14 Jan 2004
Notes left: 2965
Last seen at: Moon base #25
Huh?

I thought the butcher WAS travis from the other side of the mirror. Like his mom and dad are both monsters in the oher world, I though the butcher was travis?
Still its way to simular to PH

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RESPECT
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003
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>I thought the butcher WAS travis from the other side of the mirror.
If that were the case then when Travis looks in the mirror he'd see The Butcher on the [otherside]. But he doesn't.

Besides, Travis doesn't physically go anywhere, just like Helen: he goes into a catatonic state staring into a mirror until he "returns."

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 25 Jul 2006
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>Besides, Travis doesn't physically go anywhere, just like Helen: he goes into a catatonic state staring into a mirror until he "returns."



If that’s the case then how did Travis ever get behind lock doors in the mist world? O.o I also thought the same, but I found it contradicting when he would materialized in different locations then he fist enter the alter world.

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Brookhaven Receptionist
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Missing since: 10 Apr 2006
Notes left: 916
Last seen at: Zanesville Ohio
Still the mind can do some pretty strange things at times. So I believe that perhaps Travis's Mind as soon as he entered the town, began to play tricks on him.. and thus his subconscious manifested the Butcher and everything else he's seeing in the town. I dunno I'm just firing opinions around here, I'm not right about any of them I'm sure.. but it's worth a try

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 10 Nov 2006
Notes left: 71
Last seen at: Silent Adan
The Adversary wrote:
Besides, Travis doesn't physically go anywhere, just like Helen: he goes into a catatonic state staring into a mirror until he "returns."


WoW :shock:
That's really really interesting!
I never actually thought that...
Clever... :)


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 14 Jan 2004
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Last seen at: Moon base #25
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If that were the case then when Travis looks in the mirror he'd see The Butcher on the [otherside]. But he doesn't. [/quote]

I dont think so.. because he is in deniel still.

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Brookhaven Receptionist
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Missing since: 25 Apr 2006
Notes left: 826
Last seen at: the place of broken dreams and mirrors
Silent Hill shows you precisely what you are in denial about. Like Harry being tortured for never telling Cheryl she was adopted, James' refusal to accept that he did what he did, etc. Travis might not understand why he sees The Butcher when he looks into a mirror, but he would see him, nevertheless.


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RESPECT
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003
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Except that he doesn't see The Butcher in the mirror. In fact, he sees it in both the [mirrorworld] and in the "normal" version of town.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 14 Jan 2004
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Last seen at: Moon base #25
when does travis see it in the otherworld?



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1. the butcher shop
2. The motel peep hole
3. when you fight him
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RESPECT
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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003
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The butcher shop is in the "normal" town. So is the peephole--he's just seeing into the [mirrorworld], but Travis at the time is in the "normal" town.

Now that I think of it, isn't the battle with him in the "normal" world as well?

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 26 Aug 2006
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Last seen at: South Ashfield Heights apartment
I assume they were having sex, but I think they mess up, Lisa was a strong and gentle character on the series, they screw it up in my humble opinion.

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