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called "Seeing Red" from escapist mag. Briefly delves into creator's ideas behind PH via interview segments, his place in the SH universe, and the profound fan fascination with him as a character (or at least attempts to explain the authors).




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If you have yet to complete SH2, I would reccomend passing on this article as it covers main plot twists. Otherwise, enjoy.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/article ... Seeing-Red[/spoiler]

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Nicely written article, though it doesn't really tell us anything new. I do find it interesting that the developers specifically called him a Butcher, which helps my "Pyramid Head = Shadow Archetype = Butcher" theory.

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AuraTwilight wrote:
Nicely written article, though it doesn't really tell us anything new. I do find it interesting that the developers specifically called him a Butcher, which helps my "Pyramid Head = Shadow Archetype = Butcher" theory.


Yeah, but people will always argue that PH is SH2/James specific.

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Oh, I know PH IS SH2 specific, but the Butcher is a similar kind of entity. It's like how all the monsters in the game were of a similar nature of representing certain darknesses, but weren't the EXACT SAME monsters.

Both Pyramid Head and the Butcher are the Shadow Archetype. I'll link you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_%28psychology%29

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QUOTE: The idea of a humanlike monster with a deep red pyramid-shaped helmet sounds ridiculous on paper. However, the slick crimson stains upon it, a similarly spattered butcher's apron, heavy boots and a huge knife just work.

Well said. Somehow, he's creepier than the sum of his parts.


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AuraTwilight wrote:
Oh, I know PH IS SH2 specific, but the Butcher is a similar kind of entity. It's like how all the monsters in the game were of a similar nature of representing certain darknesses, but weren't the EXACT SAME monsters.

Both Pyramid Head and the Butcher are the Shadow Archetype. I'll link you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_%28psychology%29


I understand what a shadow archetype is. My misunderstanding was more along the lines of PH=SA=B. Now I see what you're saying, and I agree (PH=SA, B=SA, SA=running concept between games). Thanks for the link :D

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QUOTE: The idea of a humanlike monster with a deep red pyramid-shaped helmet sounds ridiculous on paper. However, the slick crimson stains upon it, a similarly spattered butcher's apron, heavy boots and a huge knife just work.

Well said. Somehow, he's creepier than the sum of his parts.


Agreed, and I appreciated the article as a whole for such reasons. Glad you enjoyed.

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Congrats, Aura, you just converted someone. =D

Well, it's nice to see an article about it here and today that isn't whining about video game violence.


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Nice little article, thanks for the link.

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wait wait wait..... back to the shadow archetype thing. Was the Butcher or pyramid head ever even "real" or was that all an illusion made by james and travis OR possibly alessa

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They had nothing to do with Alessa. And no, neither of them physically exist. They are manifestations.

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so the battles i had to go through were just them dealing with their inner demon or just a past incident

that seems kinda pointless and yet it doesn't :arrow: see i liked the idea of putting them in there but i kinda feel like they were fighting themselves the whole time ........ But then again that is what adds to the SH game greatness so i guess it doesn't bother me that much

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It's a nice summary of her views of P-head, but doesn't go into any deep analysis.

Which might be a good thing, seeing how some people tend to confuse deep with complicated.


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so the battles i had to go through were just them dealing with their inner demon or just a past incident

that seems kinda pointless and yet it doesn't Arrow see i liked the idea of putting them in there but i kinda feel like they were fighting themselves the whole time ........ But then again that is what adds to the SH game greatness so i guess it doesn't bother me that much


That's how it is with all monsters in the SH storylines, they're all creations of a person's mind, made real by the supernatural properties of the Otherworld.

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>That's how it is with all monsters in the SH storylines, they're all creations of a person's mind, made real by the supernatural properties of the Otherworld.

Yeah, this article gave me no new information. Nice reading, though.

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It was very interseting. All old information but good information nonetheless.

I stand firm on the Shadow Archetype theory.

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AuraTwilight wrote:
I do find it interesting that the developers specifically called him a Butcher, which helps my "Pyramid Head = Shadow Archetype = Butcher" theory.

You mean the developers called the Red Pyramid Thing a butcher?
If so, where did they do that?


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