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 Post subject: The Diary on the Rooftop of Brookhaven
     
         
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As some of you know, Silent Hill's creation team is mostly Japanese people and the scripts and such are thus written in Japanese first so....

Here's my Japanese to English translation for the diary on top of Brookhaven Hospital.
** Also if anyone thinks there's something muddled up about my translation do feel free to correct me or whatnot *COUGHcoughburningmancoughcoughcoughCOUGH* :D

I put parentheses for little notes and stuff.

Here's the diary first:

May 9th
Raining today.
With my blanked-out head I blank away.
Days with nothing (to do) are peaceful but boring.
I haven't changed so I can't go outside. (referring to health state)

May 10th
It keeps raining.
I talked a little bit with the doctor.
If I didn't have someone who would mourn, they couldn't help (save) me?
The thing I'm weak to is reality.
It's not like just anyone can live strongly.

May 11th
Rain.
The medicine today was a little painful (rough).
If I get cured by this, I wonder if the medicine-soaked me is the real me.

May 12th
Rain today.
All in all, not causing problems (trouble/confusion) is such a difficult thing isn't it.
However, in the current situation it's the exact same thing.
Is it really such a bad thing, to run away (escape)?
There are people that deny this. But, my feelings are something only I know.
It may be selfish but I'd be happy with that.
It's painful in this state.
Because, it's painful.

May 13th
Clear today. (as in no rain)
I'm to be discharged.
I----

Now, here is the official translation that most of us who played it in English got:
(Don't get me wrong, I respect Jeremy Blaustein, the translator very much. I think he did an excellent job)

May 9
Rain.
Stared out the window all day.
Peaceful here - nothing to do.
Still not allowed to go outside.

May 10
Still raining.
Talked with the doctor a little.
Would they have saved me if
I didn't have a family to feed?
I know I'm pathetic, weak.
Not everyone can be strong.

May 11
Rain again.
The meds made me feel sick
today.
If I'm only better when I'm
drugged, then who am I anyway?

May 12
Rain as usual.
I don't want to cause any more
trouble for anyone, but I'm a
bother either way.
Can it really be a such a sin to
run instead of fight?

Some people may say so, but they
don't have to live in my shoes.
It may be selfish, but it's what
I want.
It's too hard like this.
It's just too hard....

May 13
It's clear outside.
The doctors told me I've been
released - that I've got to go
home.
I --------------

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Last edited by Littlestardweller on 23 Jan 2006, edited 4 times in total.

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Thank god... finally. Really good work! I owe you a cookie for that! :wink: :mrgreen:

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Good work Littlestardweller. Even in the Japanese script, I’m still not convinced that's Mary diary.

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Well personally I believe it's Mary because of the writer's tone.
I'm not going to connect it to anyone's theories because mainly I haven't read all of them and I have my own view and imagery of the games.

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It could or it could not belong to Mary... either way, it seems that many other theories that were "based" in the japanese script and had evidence in the diary isn't correct.

Even if it is Mary's it isn't bound to her staying at brookhaven... which is another thread.

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I never really thought it was Mary's Diary even from the english version.
BTW good work, Littlestardweller!

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Yes, nicely done. It's pretty interesting to hear it translated more closely.

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Briliant! Even though I can see how the official translation works just fine too, it's very interesting to get to read the "original". Thanks!

And here's my thought about mary/not mary writing the diary: Ofcourse it might just be a fact that Mary didn't write that, but I personally believe team silent wanted the player to come to the conclusion on his/her own. To me, part of the gaming experience (Atleast in these games) is to discover and understand things this way, to go deeper into the mysteries by myself, rather than being told right in my face, like in so many other games. (Even in real life it takes a true genious to fully understand everything. Not making everything obvious makes the game more realistic.) The fact that nothing is really obvious at first sight makes the thrill of suddelny coming to such conclusions a lot more exciting, and sometimes even frightening (Not to mention when not understanding at all)! The way I see it, that's part of how these games are written. I have no doubt in who wrote that diary. Not today. I had no idea at the first playthrough, though.

I don't think the loss of facts pointing at Mary not writing it proves anything, just as nothing is proof of the oposite.

So I really don't want to say that Mary actually wrote that. Just that I personally am fully convinced she did. As well as someone else could be as convinced believing she didn't. And I think that's exactly the way Team Silent wants it to be!

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I'm glad to (ATTEMPT) to provide another perspective..

I thought a lot of that was nicely phrased, Twix... :)

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Thanks a lot Littlestardweller, really. That's awesome. Personally, I think it separates Mary from writing it even more...

"If I get cured by this, I wonder if the medicine-soaked me is the real me. "

But I won't explain it here (it'd turn into a novel or something), I will probably do it a bit in my thread when I have the energy. But that line really convinces me.

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impressive Littlestardweller! you deserve a turtle! ^_^ anyways...THAT WAS MARY'S DIARY!?!?!?!? :shock: i never knew that! i always thought it was just some random persons diary :?


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angela oroscos twin wrote:
impressive Littlestardweller! you deserve a turtle! ^_^ anyways...THAT WAS MARY'S DIARY!?!?!?!? :shock: i never knew that! i always thought it was just some random persons diary :?


It's not a fact that it is her diary. Some people think it is and some don't. It's up to you to decide and interpret it however you want to see it.

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And it seems she's made a decision.

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Twixman wrote:
Briliant! Even though I can see how the official translation works just fine too, it's very interesting to get to read the "original". Thanks!


Yeah, I agree. It's just a nice little tidbit that you don't get to read everyday.

Much thanks for posting it, Littlestardweller.


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Another jewel from you,Littlestardweller!Thx :D


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I keep seeing people posting that they aren't convinced it's Mary's diary. If it isn't hers, then who else is in hospital, with the same problem as Mary? As she did go home because James killed her, and if it's someone else's diary then where is the link with the diary?


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If its not mary. then who is it? a hospital patient?

And i believe is mary. because when you read the diary, PH appears and this is a creation of a delusional mind...

in my opinion...

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I also think it's Mary, it cannot be any other patient, or it would have no connection, at all.
It has to be Mary.


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Mister_Creazil wrote:
I also think it's Mary, it cannot be any other patient, or it would have no connection, at all.
It has to be Mary.


It has to be. someone tell me why it cannot be.
... :?:

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I myself think it's Mary's but there is one patient who they had serious problems with. He was very suicidal and that Diary is kinda close to his character too.

If you do not believe it's Mary's, it's that patient. I think his name was Jack Davis.

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