Silent Hill Heaven

Theory's quite solid, in my opinion.

I must add, though, officially, Cybil went off to Silent Hill because she suddenly lost contact with the town. The Play Novel reiterates this by saying that Cybil was talking to her friend over at the Silent Hill Police Department when this happened, but her purpose of going to Silent Hill isn't tied to the Play Novel. Cybil suddenly lost contact and she went to Silent Hill to investigate.

"Lost Memories" suggests that Cybil is real, however. Not using this to say that your theory is incorrect, but just so that you know.

Great theory, by the way. It's been quite a while since I've read anything coherent (new theory-wise, that is) as this.

I know. I don't consider the Play Novel to be canon, though. I don't think Andy stowed away with Harry and Cheryl, and I don't think Cybil had extensive contact with little Cheryl, because we know Cheryl gets morphed into "Alessa" for her appearances post-crash. I see no reason why I shopuld pay attention to that one detail when there's just so much about the Play Novel that simply doesn't jive with me.

Thanks for the compliment! I try.

Ah, you misunderstood me, Drew. Cybil's purpose in going to Silent Hill has nothing to do with the Play Novel itself. That's official Konami information. The Play Novel just explained that information in detail, that's all.

Good theory Drewfus! Maybe SH5 will shed more light on this.

wow.

I quite like this theory, Drewfus. It makes a lot of sense. If Alessa had a pawn in Lisa, it would only be fair for Dahlia to have one as well. And who would she use, Michael Kauffman? I wouldn't take advice from that cranky kook if he payed me to take it.

Kaufmann has no purpose there, other than to be punished by Alessa. If anything his presense serves Alessa as he exorcises God from her through the Aglaophotis.

So, if I am understanding you correctly, no one who is in Silent Hill is there by accident? I rather kind of like the idea of that. And at the same time, I don't. It would make sense that everyone there is there for a specific purpose, be it to help or to hinder Harry. It makes the game seem that much colder and more calculated. But on the flip side of that, no one is an innocent bystander to feel sorry for.

Well, who in the entire series has ever been there by accident? Even the characters in SH4 were selected by Walter for a reason.

There are still innocent bystanders, though. One cannot say that it's the fault of Lisa, Alessa, Angela, Eileen, Henry, etc. Not everyone there is a criminal, but everyone is there for a reason. It's not random.

That is what I meant by no innocent bystanders. That everyone is there for a reason. I meant like, if your theory is correct(and I like it), Cybil wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time and was accidentally sucked up into all. She was there for a specific purpose. Lisa wasn't just a frightened nurse left alone in a nightmare world. She too had a purpose. They may not have known it though, which I suppose does make it all the more tragic.

Amazing theory

I like your theory. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I like it .

I personally think that Cybil was simply the wild card, much like how Laura was in Silent Hill 2. A variable in Dahlia and Alessa's equation. It's highly likely that Alessa didn't even know of Cybil's existence, which would be why Cybil never saw any monsters. As far as Cybil not retaining any injuries, she, like all motorcycle cops, was wearing protective gear for just such an occasion. And as far as Harry awakening and meeting an apparently unharmed Cybil, we really have no perception of how long Harry was out cold, so it's likely that there was time for Cybil to tend to any injuries (especially with all those health drinks and first aid kits lying around ). And I don't think it would really take much of a collision to bend a motorcycle wheel...at least 30 mph maybe, and I think she may have been doing around 40-45 mph (think about it - on a back road like that, if Harry was speeding, she'd have pulled his ass over instead of waving at him).

So basically, I think Cybil was in fact simply an innocent bystander...wrong place, wrong time (not that any time is right to be in Silent Hill ).

There are no innocent bystanders, and it's erroneous to say that Cybil is analogous to Laura because SH1 and 2 are entirely different both thematically and storywise.

Also, skintight leather pants do not offer adequate protection to a motorcycle crash that would bend the wheel like that. You saw how fast she passed Harry, she would have gone flying.

Now, in regards to Konami basically saying that Cybil was headed there from her call being cut off, I have modified the theory:

Okay, so Cybil didn't die seven years ago. However, I think she was killed in whatever caused her motorcycle crash and THEN became a pawn to Dahlia, without even realizing it. Simple as that.

I guess we can really apply this theory to all of the games if you think about it. Everyone is in place for a reason. The chess game applies to Silent Hill 1 more than any other though. All of the players were there in 2 for a purpose. James needed to remember what he did. All of the people in the town at that time(and I believe they are all real and not manifestations) represent some part of his psyche. There are not alot of characters in 3, and it's pretty straight forward why they are there. And 4......well, 4 is a disaster, lol. I love it, but it's a disaster.

SH4 isn't a disaster. Walter Sullivan had his reasons for selecting who he killed.

Silent Hill 4 is a beautiful disaster. I love it as a game, but not as a Silent Hill game if that makes sense. I know Walter had his reasons for his victims.
(side note to moderators since I am too lazy to see if this has been discussed elsewhere, but why does my name log out at weird times even though I have it checked to automatically log me in? And why is it when I close a window from the forum, about 25 internet explorer windows pop up saying i have an invalid session?)

Well, the way I see it, most characters we come across, from all four games, seem to be more tied to Silent Hill than we at first think. I think the more characters Konami introduces into the series, the closer-knit each character relation becomes, which is so odd, because the stories told in each game have such abnormal casts, and none of the storylines (except the 3rd) are directly sequential towards one another. So it just makes you think, are these character's involvements with each other just happenstance and coincidentally tied together? Or is there a deeper meaning to why they are there? I think that's another reason why I love SH so much, I think Konami does a really good job tying people together somehow, without overdoing it and making it obvious.

Side note back to Peachy: Well, I'm not a mod, but I'd say 25 windows popping up means you may have malware on your computer, and the fact that you are using IE makes me believe this is true.

Run a spyware program...run a few. You can find links to a bunch of them at
http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35407

Also, I'd download firefox as a browser, and use it instead of Internet Explorer from now on, honestly.

It isn´t just coincidence..

I still think that Cybil was a red herring...good horror flicks are full of them.

I agree with you, Monobrow. Konami does a good job tying people together without bashing you over the head with it. Also, I am using AOL(please don't smack me AOL haters), and when I close the window in AOL, the other windows pop up, but only when I close a window from the SHH forum. I have run Norton and Adaware, but they aren't coming up with anything. Thank you, though, and I am going to check out that website to see if they have something better than what I have now.