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Just Passing Through
 Post subject: Theory for Rain of Brass Petals 3 Voices Edit
     
         
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Missing since: 21 Mar 2006
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Hey guys, sorry if this has been brought up before but I've been working on this for a while. I broke down the lyrics for Rain of Brass Petals (3 voices edit) and just want to know what you think of my break down.

I am the first, a shadow at the end of the hallway

Relates to Alessa being the first person we know of in the games to have birthed the God. The part about a shadow could be relating to the fact that she seperated a part of her being, which became Cheryl, in order to avoid birthing God. Therefore, she is only a shadow of her former self.

I spin the carousel, the laughter receeds away

Alessa's nightmares changed Silent Hill into the otherworld it becomes because of her past. I think the carousel is also metaphorical for Valtiel and how he turns the wheels of SH in order to change it in SH3. Also, the nightmare side of SH would prob cause children to stop laughing.

My finger on your lips, I stole something precious

I think that the part about stealing something precious could regard to Alessa calling Cheryl back to SH and "stealing" her away from Harry.

I am the second, alone in a faceless crowd

James is the main character in the second game. And some of the monsters in SH2 don't seem to have faces in general or that are visible (i.e- Patient Demons, Nurses, Pyramid Head,) Thus, James would find himself alone in a faceless crowd.

A human caught in monochrome dreams, I scream to wake up

James is caught in what seems to be the "restless dreams" so to speak, of his late wife Mary as she wanted so bad for him to bring her to SH again. So, he ends up finding her there again. Also, the monochrome means that SH is either White or Black. Foggy or Dark.

My voice drowns deep underground, only the dead can hear me, see me

James goes very deep underground during his romp through Toluca Prison. Very...VERY deep. Also, while it isn't only the dead who can see and hear him, Angela is pressumably dead and does interact with him, as does Mary if you do find her.

I am the third, the master, a sentinel wakeness

The third I beleive is referring to the unborn God inside Heather in SH3. It is the master because it is controlling the events around Heather like converting the normal scenery into the dark and eroded world it becomes. The God is constantly aware and waiting to be set free.

I poke through like a torch, shadows linger before me

The God breaks through the barriers of the real world around Heather, and changes it into the nightmare world it becomes. It calls through darkness and shadows into Heathers world in order to remind her of her true purpose, and to show its hold grows stronger over her.

Rapid eye follow the chain of thought, until the silence ends

The God wants to purge the earth and all humans for their sins. Once the silence of the womb is breached, the God will do so. As for the rapid eye part, i haven't the foggiest.

Well, there it is, I hope you don't all think i'm crazy, LOL!! :D

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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003
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The first = Alessa
The second = Cheryl
The third = Heather

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 21 Mar 2006
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Last seen at: hartlepool, town of sin.
rapid eye movement, or R.E.M, movement of the eyes during a dream, your eyes actually physically follow your own thaught patterns. interesting, no?

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 21 Mar 2006
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Ooooh, i get it now. LOL, well i feel stupid. Thanks so much, that rapid eye thing has bothered me forever. I am indebted to you. :D

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Hope House Careworker
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Missing since: 16 Jan 2005
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Actually, I always viewed the first, second, and third as Harry, James, and Heather, respectively.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 21 Mar 2006
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Yeah, that's what I thought it was at first. I thought the song was talking about SH1,2, and 3 in order. It just seemed that way to me. But, everyone has their own take on things i guess. :)

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Brookhaven Receptionist
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Missing since: 19 Aug 2005
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The lyrics you have there don't seem to be completely right.
Eh, close enough though.

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Hope House Careworker
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Missing since: 08 Jun 2005
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I always thought they referred to the main characters of each game. Could be wrong though.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 28 Mar 2006
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first= samael
second= piramyd head
third= valtiel

well... lets see it in that case...

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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Missing since: 20 Sep 2004
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The second verse has to do with James.
SH1, SH2, SH3.
This is my assumption because if you go to http://www.konami.com/silenthill you'll see that they are using quotes from that song for the respective game under the TV. But that's my guess.

The third one does sound like Valtiel though...


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first= samael
second= piramyd head
third= valtiel

well... lets see it in that case...


Samael is not a real character. Pyramid Head is a delusion.

so Let's not.


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My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 20 Jan 2005
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I like the idea of the first, second and third being Alessa, Heather and Cheryl. Next time I hear it I'll try to think about it like that.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 15 Jan 2005
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Where did you guys get this song?I am completly lost and tired of feeling stupid. :wink:

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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Missing since: 17 Mar 2005
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abzebel wrote:
first= samael
second= piramyd head
third= valtiel

well... lets see it in that case...



Pyramid head is not a human, nor is he screaming to wake up.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 03 Sep 2006
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Last seen at: World Wide Wasteland
Another concept is to view the verses as representing the three 'villains' of Silent Hill
[[>Work In Progress<]]

I have not actualy played SH 1 or 2 however I can make a rough guess with the information I have gathered from friends and online resourses

Verse 1 - Dhalia
i am the first = First Game
a shadow at the end of the hallway = The 'end of the hallway' could be the hospital ward where Alyssa was sent after suffering her wounds and Dhalia not being able to see her
i spin the carousel = She was the one who was manipulating the whole situation, making it run on track
the laughter recedes away = A woman as scary as her could easily silence laughing children
my finger on your lips = [[>This verse has me stumped<]]
i stole something precious = She 'stole' Alyssa's childhood and happyness

Verse 2 - Maria (and Mary)
i am the second = Second Game
alone in a faceless crowd = Most of the monsters where faceless, lacked a head or was whearing something over their head. She alone was attacked by Pyramid Head ruing certain situations
a human caught = She is/was human
in monochrome dreams = One can argue that the universe that is Silent Hill is, if not still, a dreamworld Alyssa made up
i scream to wake up = She screams alot when she gets killed (duh, I know). In nightmares people tend to scream in responce to geting killed
my voice drowns deep underground = More in reference to Mary, as she is burried underground[?]
only the dead can hear me, see me = It's argueable that most of the 2nd game's cast was dead...and the little girl dosen't see her

Verse 3 - Claudia
i am the third = Third Game.
a master = She had the ability to controll and direct the creautres
a sentinel of awakeness = A sentinel is someone who watches, thus you never directly fight her. Though awakeness is not an actual word, it's in reference to that she didn't rest in her zeal to bring GOD forth
i hold truth like a torch = She knew everything...
shadows flicker before me = ...But she does not reveal everything
rapid eye follow the chain of thought = She had almost everything figured out before it was to hapen. She knew Heather would make it to her and was just watching and waiting from within the Silent Hill Nightmare.
until the silence ends = Her goal was ultimately to bring in GOD who would end the world who was going to break out of Silent Hill. She dies because she takes the birthing on when Heather throws GOD up.

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Also as additional consideration, the first verse could be Alyssa herself, 'Dark Alyssa'.
i am the first = First Game
a shadow at the end of the hallway = You only catch glimpses of her as she is runing from you
i spin the carousel = She leads you on the path she wants you on, sometimes in circles like a carousel track
the laughter recedes away = A girl as scary as her could easily silence laughing children
my finger on your lips = [[>This verse has me stumped<]]
I stole something precious = could have been Dhalia's ability to use Alyssa to summon the demon, aka Cheryl.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 22 Jun 2006
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the alessa, cheryl,and heather idea makes more sense to me.where did this song come from anyhow.

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Swedish rock band, Interlace, fans of Akira Yamaoka, remixed & rearranged the song "Rain of Brass Petals" from the Silent Hill 3 soundtrack.

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Historical Society Historian
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well,if its from silent hill 3,then wouldnt it only talk about heather,cheryl,and alessa?not james or pyramid head.

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Precisely.

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