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Just Passing Through
 Post subject: Who the hell is the father of Alessa?

Missing since: 25 Apr 2006
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Hi there my names Jim and i literally signed up 5 mins ago, now i hope this hasnt been discussed in another thread, if so i am not spamming I just want some answers.

Me and my friend were walking home after seeing Silent Hill the movie and both explained our theories to each other, then he asked a shocking question.

Who is the father of Alessia?

We see Alessias mother but see no glimpse of her father. And when the towns people later on in the film start to chant "Tell us who the father is" to which they recieve no reply, It makes you wonder if something is hidden in the mothers past to which would lead to the birth of Alessia, .

Now is the mother in some way demonic or empowered for the townspeople to spread the rumour that Alessia is a witch?

And how does having a child make the mother a sinner?

Or is the father in some way demonic or empowered?

I would really like some peoples opinions on this, maybe ive missed something in the film which tells us about the father or maybe i have a point. but even if i am wrong about the father how is the mother a sinner?

thanks for reading and spread the word.

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Somebody call Maury.


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Missing since: 20 Mar 2006
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Kakwakas wrote:
Somebody call Maury.



Haaaa..no.


Alessa's father is nameless. We don't know. And we wont ever know unless there is a sequel.

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Missing since: 23 Apr 2006
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"And how does having a child make the mother a sinner? And how does having a child make the mother a sinner?"

If nobody knew who the father was then clearly the child was not the result of a loving marriage: hence, sin. Nothing evil there, but clearly enought for the Zealots to outcast someone. Hell, the things they'll burn you for...

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Cafe5to2 Waitress
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Missing since: 20 Mar 2006
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Hell_is_Silent wrote:
"And how does having a child make the mother a sinner? And how does having a child make the mother a sinner?"

If nobody knew who the father was then clearly the child was not the result of a loving marriage: hence, sin. Nothing evil there, but clearly enought for the Zealots to outcast someone. Hell, the things they'll burn you for...



It is something carried from the ancient religions. IF you are born a bastard, you are unclean. You came from sin, so therefore you are a sin yourself.

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IT"S PYRAMID HEAD.
Duh.

Nah, seriously, I dunno.


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ok it is clearly stated we dont know the father of Alessa, But who are the parents of Sharon? All i know is:
Rose adopted her from an orphanage. I know Sharon is the good side of Alessa but where did she really come from BIOLOGICALLY? Alessa's uterus? If magically, how? Did evil alessa had a Magic wand and said abracadabra?

PS If youll tell me Sharon is Alessa's daughter, that was 30 years ago and Sharon was only like 10


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 25 Apr 2006
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you see this is another thing to think about, if sharon is alessias good side and the one with many names is her bad side, then what the hell is alessia??????

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Look around the forum. There are some discussions on who Alessa really is.

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tdjim89 wrote:
you see this is another thing to think about, if sharon is alessias good side and the one with many names is her bad side, then what the hell is alessia??????


"The Reaper" is NOT Alessa's bad side, it is some demon/Samael(satan) that is taking that form in order to influence people. Alessa is her own bad side after she gives into the "Reaper" then Sharon is whatever good came out of her or something, and became a good version of Alessa, while Alessa herself was the bad version. I think it's important to remember that the movie Cultists are a bit crazy, but they understand Silent Hill better than Rose. Which makes sense, Rose just got there wtf does she know?

[spoiler]Alessa is a person pretty much, but there is definitely something supernatural about her, and Heather(from SH3). People who have played the first game can better explain Alessa's power or whatnot. But what I got out of SH3 was that Alessa is very important to the cult and has supernatural significance. Heather was her reincarnation or something like that, and was going to give birth to the evil Cult's God that would end all life. [/spoiler]

I'm going to guess this is still confusing for you but I hope that helped some.

edit by amphreded: please use spoiler tag next time you want to talk about the game


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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 25 Apr 2006
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very enlightening hunterx, it makes sense its not her bad side, and also makes sense why the reaper wouldnt want any good in alessia, hence why she was taken away, perhaps you can help me with my newest query.

I have only seen the film once and im not sure about this hence why im asking, Did the reaper get rid off alessias good side so there would be nothing but evil left in her? or did she do it so she can take over sharon?

because i find it wierd how the reaper "EVIL BTW" would take the time to leave sharon at the orphanage, when she could have dumped her somewhere. (sorry if this sounds cruel but come on shes the reaper shes EVIL for gods sake)

so was it all part of the reapers plan or is there some good in the reaper?????

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I believe that it was all the reaper's plan. They needed a pawn in order to get into the church so that they can fulfill their plans for revenge.

Rose adopted Sharon so she is the one that the reaper could use to get into the church.

That's my take on it anyway. :P


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Missing since: 21 Jul 2003
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Last seen at: Nova Scotia, Canada
No one knows who Alessa's father is. His name is never revealed in SH1, so I don't Avary would have dared to name anyone.

Sharon has no real parents. Alessa split her soul in two when The Dark One touched her at Brookhaven. Sharon is the good half of Alessa, who The Dark One delivered to Toluca County Orphanage, knowing that Sharon would find her way back to Silent Hill when the time was right.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 25 Apr 2006
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but the reaper used rose to get into the church

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Missing since: 21 Jul 2003
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Yes. Exactly the same way that Dahlia used Harry to get to Alessa in SH1. It's called seeing an opportunity when one arises. Neither Harry nor Rose's presense in SH1 was something that was anticipated by Dahlia/The Dark One. However, both are able to come up with a brilliant plan when it happens.

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Glad that seemed to help. I've only seen it once as well, it definitely warrants multiple viewings:)

What you are asking now though is something that isn't covered by a game or the movie. It would certainly make sense that 'Reaper' would like to get rid of the good from Alessa. Alessa clearly has made a deal with the 'Reaper' so it's not impossible that 'Reaper' can't just do whatever it wants with regards to Alessa. And why would it, Alessa has allowed it to break through and create the hellish SH world.

Another theory on that which has been speculated is that 'Reaper' sent Sharon out in the world to lure Rose. I have to admit I think this makes sense.

One thing I've learned from the games is that people who end up in Silent Hill are there for a reason. There are no innocent bystanders really. Considering how much Rose mattered to 'the Reaper', essentially becoming the only protagonist in SH history to just do whatever the antagonist wanted him/her to do. I'd say its very likely that Sharon was used to lure her to SH. Sharon is afterall just a form of Alessa.

From my perspective Rose seriously messed up. You are not supposed to go in league with evil. Look at what happened to Alessa. She doesn't seem so happy, so Rose is definitely screwed.

This is all speculation though, we can only imagine why 'The Reaper' does what it does. Now you are getting into the fun of SH though, it allows for interpretation by the viewer/player.


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Missing since: 07 Aug 2005
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Sutefeni wrote:
I believe that it was all the reaper's plan. They needed a pawn in order to get into the church so that they can fulfill their plans for revenge.

Rose adopted Sharon so she is the one that the reaper could use to get into the church.

That's my take on it anyway. :P


its not called the reaper. its called dark alessa. she was using the repear thing metaphoricly (however u spell it) as in like i said. i killed a bunch of people. i am now a repear. doesn't actualy make me a repear. its just a term or phrase used

theres sharon, alessa and dark alessa. dark alessa is the power that offered to help alessa take revenge


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Reaper makes more sense than "dark alessa" the power existed before and totally separate from Alessa, she's much more than "dark Alessa".

Alessa - is now all evil alessa

Sharon - the good part of alessa that is now separate from her

"Reaper" - demon/Samael that granted alessa's darkest desires, and just now happens to look like a 'dark alessa' but thats just a form....remember Christobella said do not trust what you see the demon will take a form that can influence you! Christobella knows more about this shit than Rose.

Reaper has many names right, so reaper is a convenient name since thats one she gives...I'll call you Ravern, that is the name you give. Sure there could be other ways to identify you, but why make it confusing.


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HunterX, why didn't you use SPOILER in that? You just spoiled SH 3 for me. I never beat it. :evil:


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 20 Jul 2005
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sandmanfvr wrote:
HunterX, why didn't you use SPOILER in that? You just spoiled SH 3 for me. I never beat it. :evil:


Sorry about that. I've put spoiler tag in HunterX's post now.

HunterX, if you read this, please put spoiler tag or warning because you post any games-related materials. If you have read the sticky of this forum, you should know better. It's okay since this is your first time, but next time please don't forget
Thanks.

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