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Brookhaven Receptionist
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I dont know if this was ever discussed before the wipe, so bear with me. Let me know what you think of this theory.
No other character in the game seems to see Maria or PH. Yet, PH and Maria do interact. Could it be that they represent both sides of James' subconscious?

Maria would represent James' Id, as she seems to follow the basic Pleasure Principle. In other words, the Id wants instant gratification, with no consideration for the reality of the situation. James' wishes for pleasure and happiness, regardless of reality, are personified as Maria.

PH represents James' Superego, the part of the subconscious that is responsible for feelings of guilt, blaming or punishing oneself, and passing judgement. The Superego stands in direct opposition to the desires of the Id. The Superego is also synonymous with the conscience, influenced by the morals of laws and society.

The Ego is probably represented by James. "Ego" is Latin for "I" and it represents the sense of self. The ego is the part of the personality that mediates between the Id and the Superego. The ego also establishes the sense of reality. It also functions to test reality, to determine if reality is too much to handle at the time, and subsequently decides to repress memories that are too painful, or to recover repressed memories when reality is undeniable.

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I like the idea. Definitely worth expanding.


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I actually like this idea in a sense. When one considers it, both Pyramid Head and Maria are in Silent Hill to give James the exact same message. By themselves they give it in differant ways, but together they perform some sort of perverted parody of James and Mary.

PH = James

Maria = Mary


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Historical Society Historian
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Is known that PH kills Maria over and over again, to remind James of killing her...

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Yes, I know.

Maria = PH with breasts


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Maria saw Laura. Maria is Maria, up until she gets killed in Brookhaven, after that i think she is something else.

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Not quite sure.


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Maria (in the cell)=Lobsel Vith SAQOA?


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I dont know, but i doubt it's really Maria.

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She did act too much like Mary. Maria recieving Mary's memories.


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Well you did compare them using good ol' Freud well :D Glad to see that. I can differently see what you're saying.


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I actually like this idea in a sense. When one considers it, both Pyramid Head and Maria are in Silent Hill to give James the exact same message. By themselves they give it in differant ways, but together they perform some sort of perverted parody of James and Mary.

I love it. Makes sense.

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I have to join the masses. That's a damn nice theory, and simple to boot.

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emptimass wrote:
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I actually like this idea in a sense. When one considers it, both Pyramid Head and Maria are in Silent Hill to give James the exact same message. By themselves they give it in differant ways, but together they perform some sort of perverted parody of James and Mary.

I love it. Makes sense.


Just stating my view, but thankyou :)


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Pyramid Head concept= http://translatedmemories.com/bookpgs/P ... eature.jpg

Maria concept= http://translatedmemories.com/bookpgs/P ... racter.jpg

I believe these links prove the Freudian aspect accurate. These come from The Book of Lost Memories, a tome released in Japanese by the creators and translated by a couple of wise souls willing to share the lore of Silent Hill.

Very perceptive, biomechanical. Nice to know that someone enjoys philosophy, especially as complex and abstract as Freud. And here I was starting to feel like a nerd! :D


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Not only is this game so cool, it's so smart!

Great theories, everyone! General Psych all over again.

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I like the way you tried to use and internal approch instead of just exterior.Good therory,Bio. :mrgreen:

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agreed. Nicely said.


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Well done, salesman.

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Brookhaven Receptionist
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SAQOA wrote:
Maria saw Laura. Maria is Maria, up until she gets killed in Brookhaven, after that i think she is something else.


Yes, Maria saw Laura, but did Laura see Maria?

Excellent theory, biomechanical.

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