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 Post subject: Stanley Coleman

Hokay, so, this' been bugging me when I finished SH3 for the second time. Maybe it's just me who doesn't get it? Anyway.

Who is Stanley Coleman and what is his purpose in the game?

We read those letters from him, it's like a creepy build up, and then there is no influence or any role/info about it later in the game.

Was it supposed to be something significant? Or just reason #6874 why Alessa was freaked out by people?

Yes there are plot holes in SH. Is it one? I mean, he clearly adresses to Alessa in his letters. When did he meet her and started stalking her? And why the hell is he calling her Heather?
*Henry confusion. dur*


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Well basically in my knowledge stanely Coleman was a mental patient at the hospital. He is someone who is completely obsessed with meeting heather. Well i think the letters were supposed to get you a little freaked out especially when you find the last letter.

sorry if a lot of this is wrong. i havent played silent hill 3 for about a year since my friend borrowed it and never gave it back. so im going off what i can remember

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Stanley, it is believed, had association with the cult. By reading his letters you can deduce that he was a member (a low one, of course, one of no real importance besides being part of the flock) who was obsessed with Alessa, and put up in Brookhaven Hospital by, quite possibly, Leonard (or one of the other members, perhaps someone higher). He knew of Alessa being Heather and immediately became infatuated with her, looking at her as a saviour. I think his existence is more to show the fervor of faith and how it can be mistaken--or turn into--pure lunacy than he is a worthwhile and important character. He's never met Heather, never even seen her until the hospital, and yet he is so determined to love her and believe in her.

It's been a while since I've read Stanley's diary entries, so until I go back and look through it, I can't give a more detailed analysis of the bloke.

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What Krissy said.

Stanley Coleman. Room S07. Usually passive and cowardly, also egotistical.
Sometimes shows and acts on obsessive attachment to a particular woman.
This has caused violent incidents; use caution.

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Thanks guys for the current opinions. Here are the notes if anyone's is interested.


STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (1)


This day has finally come.
That's right --- the day when you and I will meet.

I was always thinking of you, here in this gloomy cell.
I never even knew your name or face until today.

But now I know. I know you're the one I've
been waiting for.
And haven't you been waiting for me too?
Thats why you came to rescue me.

Oh, how I love you Heather.

I want to give you my prized doll, I made it to
commemorate our meeting,
the start of this everlasting love.
Ah, I can already see your smiling face.

Stanley Coleman


STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (2)

You may not yet of realized your own feelings.
But you sense them unconsciously.
And so you're trying to get closer to me.
That's a virtue, that path to Paradise.

If the door's locked, open it. Use the password for
the prison gates. Doctor.... I've forgotten
his name. Anyway, that quack has it posted. He should
be here, too. I mean, 4 numbers would've been good enough,
but he kept on going.

Isn't it a shame? I'm not there. Aren't you irritated?
I long for you, but you're so cruel.
Still, I want you Heather.

Stanley Coleman


STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (3)


The organization has me shut up in here. They mean to
break my will, to make me forget about all that.
But I'll stay sane even if they throw me in here with
lunatics. How about if I stick this to the wall?
That would be worthless.
You can peel it off, can't you, with that junk those
nasty wenches wont stop using.
If a thing has no meaning there's no reason for it
to exist at all. Just as you exist for me.
But why haven't you taken my doll with you?
Ah, my gift must've embarrassed you.
How cute you are, Heather!

Stanley Coleman


STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (4)


Flowing feely, your ebony hair. Like the night sky,
seatting fragrance,
my heart, clamoring in my chest.
Like a storm you trifle with it, your pristine glance.
Like a feast, when you smile my thoughts, disturbed,
my breath like opium, it drives me mad.......
Eric, a great poet who conveys my feelings so well.
I shouldn't have let this place get to me, should never
have gone crazy.
But it's superbly enjoyable to drown in my love for you.
But why won't you accept proof of my love?
Don't stand on ceremony now.
After all, you and I exist as one.
What I give to you is the same as what I give to me.

Stanley Coleman



STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (5)

There was a tattooed guy on that rumpled bed.
Not anymore though.
That alarm clock and filthy bag are his.
Ah, but don't misunderstand. I haven't done a thing.
I didn't hate him, though he was a liar.
Shall I write something of my own?
On my chest, since I can't cut it open to show you my heart.
" I love Heather"
No, something a bit more forceful.
"I love Heather" isn't enough for what I feel.
Oh, what tender emotion this image brings.

Stanley Coleman



STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (6)

Heather, my most sacred lover. I'm always watching you.
No matter where you are or what you may be doing,
I have never lost sight of you.
I know you feel intensely lonely.
Yet with a single key to this door, those feelings won't stand in
the way any longer.
We haven't been able to see each other for so long.
Be patient --- it's just a little longer.
I'll be patient, too, even though I long to hold you in
these hands of mine.
The key is behind the shelves in the underground garage.
Why there?
Ask that idiot doctor.
Theres not a single person here who's right in the head.
Not just in this hospital --- I mean in all of Silent Hill.

Except me.

Stanley Coleman



STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (7)

I also like the rooftop.
It makes me want to fly.
You too?

Stanley Coleman



STANLEY COLEMAN'S DIARY (8 )

Goodbye, Heather.
I'm sorry, I wasn't able to respond to your love.
It's all over.
Leonard despises me --- because I made fun of it,
saying it would come to this.
If it weren't for his meddling, I would have been able
to meet you in just a little while.
Then I could of taken you to my world.
A world for us alone, more beautiful than this one.
And I had been waiting for this day, for today.
The day I'd see you, the day you'd save me.
Today.
Heather, watch out for him. Leonard is no ordinary guy.
Farewell, I love you.
Heather, my Goddess
Heather, my lover
Heather, my.......


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Krissy... wow you're smart! I never would have put that much thought into it. Wait a minute... you know how the mysterious voice on the phone says that Stanley is, "Number Seven Now"? Well... when he says that, is he referring to the creamatory where all the numbered bodies are?

Wow now I'm really freaked out... if the body labeled "7" WAS in fact, Stanley, I wonder who killed him... and why??

I always kind of liked Stanley Coleman. I felt really sorry for him, even though he was a mental case.


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>if the body labeled "7" WAS in fact, Stanley, I wonder who killed him... and why??
It is. If you walk up to the #7 in the Morgue, you'll hear him whisper Heather.... Who killed him? Leonard Wolfe.

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^ so that is what the whispering says.wow your good at decoding those whispers,Adversary.
I always go click on it,because I feel kinda said for Stanely,he spent his whole life perparing for Heather and then she doesn't like him and he ends up being killed by Leonard.

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the Adversary wrote:
>if the body labeled "7" WAS in fact, Stanley, I wonder who killed him... and why??
It is. If you walk up to the #7 in the Morgue, you'll hear him whisper Heather.... Who killed him? Leonard Wolfe.


Ferreal? I have to rebeat the game. I never heard that.


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the Adversary wrote:
>if the body labeled "7" WAS in fact, Stanley, I wonder who killed him... and why??
It is. If you walk up to the #7 in the Morgue, you'll hear him whisper Heather.... Who killed him? Leonard Wolfe.
I don't know......on my game it was a Japanese man gasping for air. :P

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And you knew he was Japanese because...?

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I have three theories

1.Stanley Coleman was a mental patient. I think Stan met Lenard, Lenard told Stan about God, and some how, Stan figured out that Heather is the mother and child of God, so he's obsessed with her.



2. Stan was an old flame of Heather, that she forgot about. Otherwise, how could Heather be carring God?

3. Stan was a childhood friend of Alessa. He believes that Heather is Alessa, so he wants to see how "Alessa" changed.


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There's no reason to have theories about it since the game tells you all you need to know about him. The only one that makes remotely any sense is number one, and only a few parts of it are right. Stanely never met Heather before, hence in his diary he talks about finally getting to see Heather. They can't be an old flame if they've never seen each other. The God of the Order isn't conceived by any natural means, so it doesn't matter if Heather's a virgin or not. She was born with the Godfoetus inside of her.

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Stanley, it is believed, had association with the cult. By reading his letters you can deduce that he was a member (a low one, of course, one of no real importance besides being part of the flock) who was obsessed with Alessa, and put up in Brookhaven Hospital by, quite possibly, Leonard (or one of the other members, perhaps someone higher). He knew of Alessa being Heather and immediately became infatuated with her, looking at her as a saviour. I think his existence is more to show the fervor of faith and how it can be mistaken--or turn into--pure lunacy than he is a worthwhile and important character. He's never met Heather, never even seen her until the hospital, and yet he is so determined to love her and believe in her.

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Miss Krissy wrote:
And you knew he was Japanese because...?
I don't know he just sounded like he was Asian.....Broken Engrish sounding.....I do know some Asian people so I know what it sounds like. Also I think the fact that this is a Japanese created game I reserve the right to assume he was Japanese.

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Depending on if it's triggered, you will hear a groan/gasp instead of a whisper.
Don't know if it's japanese, though.


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So "Heather" is what he whispers, eh? I never even noticed a whisper...


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Last time I checked, it was just a loud Sigh. No real whisper or words, just one of those There-Goes-The-Crush-Of-A-Lifetime-Sigh.

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I heard somewhere you have to play through it a second time to hear the whisper.

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Is it possible that someone could grab the whisper in MP3 form?

I'd appriciate it greatly.

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I used to have it on my computer....but not anymore. :?

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