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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 31 Mar 2006
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I've wondered if there is any known significance to the writings you find in the hospital. I can't come up with anything. These are the writings I'm talking about:

1. "She is an angel no one knows only
I can see the Lady of the Door
they cannot walk along her Bridge
of Thread they fall from the weight
of their crimes.

Like bloated and ugly corpses
their sins she devours them
sin and sinner alike she saves
me she is an angel."

2. "Louise
I'll take care of you four ever.
It's my destiny!"

3. (normal dif.) "i know it i know the number of
the box #### it cant help
him anymore the button key
doesnt scare me so nobody
can stop who i am i don't know
who i am is who i am is who
i am is"

4. (hard dif.) "i know it the secret i'll give them
something to deal with this demon
shelter is of no use any more he is
my instrument he must follow my
orders yes, the box will be useless

now i must not forget it ####
that's good he is the lowest now
i too will be free and he will serve
me i am a genius no one can stop
me one can stop me no one can
stop me can stop can stop no no"

5. "Tern tern tern the numbers
better not forget them
So i'll right them down here
The other one, my secret name"


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Missing since: 19 Jul 2003
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They allude to all of the different puzzles in the hospital.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 20 Aug 2003
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The first one "She is an angel [...]" is a somewhat clear description of why of all places James [Angela, Eddie, Walter, et cetera(?)] is drawn to the otherside of Silent Hill. That is: because "they cannot walk along her Bridge of Thread they fall from the weight of their crimes."

God - The Holy Woman; Holy Mother; Whatever - devours "sin and sinner alike".

The rest are as Tom said alludes to puzzles + fillings of ramble made by a mentally ill patient.

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The first is in reference to "the Lady of the Door," that James has to put the two rings onto. The "Bridge of Thread" is what's beneath the door: the maze that James must run through before he falls from the weight of his crime.

fall = die
weight of his crime = the red pyramid thing

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 31 Mar 2006
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Interesting... and, yeah, I meant aside from the puzzle context. I figured those small things might be representations. I should've figured out the Lady of the Door and James thinking he's being punished for his crimes...


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And to answer your questions to 2. 3. 4. 5. they are right here.

EDIT:

And here is the Lady in the door topic.

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Just Passing Through
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Missing since: 13 Jul 2006
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St. Thomas wrote:
The first is in reference to "the Lady of the Door," that James has to put the two rings onto. The "Bridge of Thread" is what's beneath the door: the maze that James must run through before he falls from the weight of his crime.

fall = die
weight of his crime = the red pyramid thing


Right, that all sounds quite feasible..except James doesn't die in the maze- I think it foreshadows the labyrinth better, where James, driven by his guilt (the weight of his crime) literally "falls" hundreds of feet downwards; who's the "she", though? "She is an angel", "they cannot walk along her bridge of thread", "she devours saint and sinner alike". A religious-looking mural, religious imagery of a judgement in the accompanying memo- they really are trying to say something here, I think. Something oblique and vague, possibly intended to be retroactively clarified to whatever purpose Team Silent saw fit.

As everyone probably recalls, that door is the exact location from where Heather emerges into the Alternate Brookhaven in SH3. Pretty pointed choice for a coincidence, IMO.


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Missing since: 27 Jun 2006
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I think you just missed the point of that.

He does not die in the maze, yes. But if he does not get out, then the 'Weight of his Sins' will cleave him in two like a good smoked ham.

And it is not a fall as in falling hundreds of feet, either. To fall has several meanings. To fall from grace, to fall in battle, felled by disease, etc.

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Missing since: 10 Jun 2006
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I never made the connection between the "weight of the crimes" thing and pyramid head.

I learned something today, now I can rest.


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I always thought that Maria was the "weight of his crime."

I mean, the first time I was down there, I tried to make sure she kept up and was okay. I died soon afterward. Talk about baggage.

I mean. If he didn't let go of Maria, he would "fall" (die). Which is almost exactly what he does: leaves her behind. [spoiler]He returns from the bottom of Brookhaven without Maria... (she's impaled on a Great Spear). That is the final time he has to accompany her, and thus he "lets go" of her.[/spoiler]

But let's not think too deep about it.

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My Bestsellers Clerk
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Missing since: 03 May 2009
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MMY wrote:
fall = die
weight of his crime = the red pyramid thing

That's interesting.
It makes total sense,
great analysis.
Or maybe, literally fall from the hospital rooftop by the 'weight of his crime'?

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Historical Society Historian
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overachiever547 wrote:
I always thought that Maria was the "weight of his crime."

I mean, the first time I was down there, I tried to make sure she kept up and was okay. I died soon afterward. Talk about baggage.

I mean. If he didn't let go of Maria, he would "fall" (die). Which is almost exactly what he does: leaves her behind. [spoiler]He returns from the bottom of Brookhaven without Maria... (she's impaled on a Great Spear). That is the final time he has to accompany her, and thus he "lets go" of her.[/spoiler]

But let's not think too deep about it.


True.

The weight of his crime is killing Mary, and the evidence for that is creating Maria. So he must let go of his "crimes and sins" by letting maria die, or he will fall from the "bridge" and die.

So to pass the bridge and not "fall", he must let go of maria or die, thus "falling"


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 12 Feb 2009
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Who wrote number 1 was Joshua Lewis
Who wrote number 2 was Jack Davis
And who wrote number 3 and 4 was Joseph Barkin

Every "SH2 fanatic" knows that but I'm just wanting to point this out 'cause it reminded me of that, altough I highly doubt about Joseph and Jack, maybe I made a mistake there but you get the point. :)

EDIT: Number 3 and 4 are Joshua Lewis as well I guess.

And number 5 I think it was Joseph. Ow dammit, I have to play that game again. I swear that I knew who wrote all these memos but I forgot :(


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Missing since: 06 Aug 2009
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Some evidence on how you got to those conclusions would be fabulous, Mephisto.


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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 15 Jul 2003
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There's also the memo about a patient losing the copper ring.

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Historical Society Historian
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Missing since: 12 Feb 2009
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No, no, no I did it all wrong.

Joseph was a calm guy but got extreme violent when he was excited, you can see that in a memo, he had a daughter called Louise and that Box is his, he was so crazy that he thought that he caused the death of Louise and all, "His illness seems to be rooted in the fact that he believes he is guilty of causing his daughter's death" as we can read in one of the Doctor's memo and what is left of his daughter is only 3 pieces of hair.

The "tern, tern, tern" the numbers is one of Joseph's memo as well, I don't recall where we can find it but there's evidence that he didn't knew how to write properly. The "I took the direckter's key" memo is his too. And Joseph was the one that the doctor said something similar to: "Should I bring him out of his own world for the sake of sanity?" It's like, he's happy in his own mind, after all.

Jack Davis attempted suicide 3 times as we can see in the reception's memo. The "diary from the roof" is his memo, as well as the "Basement's basement". He lost his wedding ring there, I believe we can find out in the same reception's memo that he had a family.

Now, the only left is Joshua Lewis. "She is an angel" and "Imprint on carbon paper" are his memos. He always fought his way trough violence, and believes that there's a demon inside Joseph's box, thus he stole one of the keys. "No one can stop me no one can stop me no one can stop me" He thought that by freeing the Demon and by pleasing the Lady from the door he would get out of the hospital or something.

Credit goes first to a guy named SilentPyramid who helped me at looking at things more deeply, and myself too, who has played the game a lot and figured out some stuff alone. But I didn't played like MMY who finished it 50+ times :P


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>The "diary from the roof" is his memo
The rooftop diary is Mary's.

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>The rooftop diary is Mary's.
I don't think so, Tom. Let's check the memo, shall we?

"Memo Title: Diary from roof"

May 9
Rain.
Stared out the window all day.
Peaceful here - nothing to do.
Still not allowed to go outside.

May 10
Still raining.
Talked with the doctor a little.
Would they have saved me if
I didn't have a family to feed?
I know I'm pathetic, weak.
Not everyone can be strong.

May 11
Rain again.
The meds made me feel sick
today.
If I'm only better when I'm
drugged, then who am I anyway?

May 12
Rain as usual.
I don't want to cause any more
trouble for anyone, but I'm a
bother either way.
Can it really be a such a sin to
run instead of fight?

Some people may say so, but they
don't have to live in my shoes.
It may be selfish, but it's what
I want.
It's too hard like this.
It's just too hard....

May 13
It's clear outside.
The doctors told me I've been
released - that I've got to go
home.
I --------------

It seems that this person wants death so bad, Mary wanted to die, but she wanted to live as well. One point broken, I guess.

That person haves "a family to feed", usually people who use that quote are father's from what I know. And we all know that Mary isn't a man, plus she never even says anything about her family. Her only family was James, and seems he had a decent job to pay the bills...

And last, but not least: We can assume that something happened to this person, "it" was writing on the roof, suddenly no more words appear to be read. Several thorn pages and some even made some kind of a "trail", maybe that person jumped from the roof? To meet his doom? We all know that james killed Mary.
It's Jack Davis. Not Mary.


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I know so.

Like, absolutely.

Beyond the shadow of doubt.

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I'm out of words.
Damn you, and damn Japanese script... Let me win only once, man :?


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